Boris announcing in House of Commons now

Sparklefizz we’re doomed

When you have idiots like a guy who was stopped in the street today and asked what he thought of the tier system, and he said he thought it was rubbish because the Government hadn't told us when the pandemic was going to be over .... well, what can you do with people with that mentality?

Until all the people who "don't believe in the virus," have actually been very ill with it, the virus will continue to spread. It is quite amazing how many people seem to think that they are being fooled by the Government who want to control them. Quite honestly, no matter what the rules, these people are going to flout them.
I'm not saying that this Government has got everything right but I do think that this is a difficult problem that no power could easily resolve without mistakes. I'm with LemonGrove, the latest rules are quite easy to understand. I think people just like to have a moan about everything these days and find problems where they don't need to. All the information is being given out on a 24/7 basis through the News channels, the Government web site, etc. There was a huge outcry based on Brexit because our children/grandchildren would have to pay and a Covid Economic crash would impact them just as hard. The Government do not have their own money to bail us out in the case of lockdown. They have our taxes and what they borrow; the latter has to be paid back and the former is not available if people aren't working. There just has to be a more balanced approach than lockdown.

No whataboutery just pointing out the obvious.

Anyone could do it better.

Do you think the next person would do it better

I had the pleasure (not), of meeting Boris socially on a number of occasions 20 years ago, at that time he came across as a very academically intelligent man, totally without morals, who blustered and demanded to be the centre of attention. My opinion hasn't changed.

He is so pig headed that he totally ignores all professional advice, refuses to take responsibility for anything, and is totally ignorant. As for his understanding of the needs of 80% of his population, he hasn't a clue! Answer questions? Of course not, he doesn't actually hear the questions. Take professional advice? Only if it fits with his personal views (in other words only if it fits with his lifestyle), he totally lacks empathy of any kind, and his morals are questionable.

Boris is a masterful campaigner, was a good Mayor of London, but he is n o t fit to be a Prime Minister. I feel sorry for him and us.

Im in 'the north'. Everyone in our local supermarket was masked. Our town has high levels, our own area has very very few cases. Go to other areas 3 miles away, masks not worn by certain groups.

I was at the Trafford Centre today. I saw three people not wearing masks, they were in a group and not only not mask wearing, took off their tops in order to try on clothes. All the changing room are of course, closed. Every single other person I saw wore a mask. All staff in every store wore masks.

The Apple shop is now only appointment only to enable staff to fully clean any screens used by customers.

We have areas of poverty, we have multi generations living together. We also have covid compliant, law abiding people, the majority of us. It's grim to keep reading that people in the north won't do as they're told.

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I think you're bit of whataboutery rather missed the point, GG13. Cummings was at the very heart of the government which made the rules and more than likely helped to formulate them. Then he told a load of lies to excuse himself. Which is more than anyone else accused of rule breaking has done. They've thrown their hands up and said 'It's a fair cop..'

However, the news today that there were not one, but TWO houses built at his parents' property without any planning permission is a fair indication of the mindset that he was brought up with and with which he obviously agrees. Rules are for breaking...

www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/18790597.council-tax-payable-dominic-cummings-lockdown-cottage/?fbclid=IwAR0SEOUvN5safWfwIHu1kngZAizlElt3CqrDMke1Fb-3l0i2xOkga-k-2UY

Ooops, just spotted a typo in my last post. It should read;

......it isn’t those who wear masks......

is what it should read. Sorry.

GrannyGravy13

By that reasoning MaizieD perhaps we should all jump on trains and travel round the UK like a Scottish Female MP or travel miles when the whole of the UK was in lockdown like Mr.Kinnock.

There are lots of folks breaking the rules and using Dominic Cummings as an excuse shows the mentality of some!!

Of someone put their hand in the fire, or drunk themselves stupid and took drugs would the rest of the Country follow?

At least the SNP MP, unlike Cummings wife didn’t write an article pretending to be in one place (London) when they were, in fact in Durham. I don’t see how anyone can defend what he did at that time and it’s obvious that by not sacking him Johnson showed himself to be weak and ineffective. Not what you want from a leader during a pandemic.

lizziepopbottle
Those are lovely masks Lizzie, did you make them all?
I know people such as those to be found on Gransnet will wear masks as appropriate, but it isn’t those who don’t wear masks that are causing the problem. To be honest, I was speaking to my son in law this weekend, he is a doctor, and he said he is yet to be convinced of the value of wearing a mask. None the less I wear a mask whenever I have to, and any other time that I myself feel it is appropriate and safer. And so does he.

Currently, it appears that the highest transmission rates are in schools/universities, followed by workplaces, not social gatherings.

Surely the people who flout the rules i.e. crowd together as described, will be the ones getting infected.

fordk4

its time we fined anyone who does not follow the rules instead of making the majority pay for the idiots who flout the rules don't keep blaming the government fine the idiots £5,000 a time and give them a criminal record, take them to court and charge them with endangering the lives of people who do abide by the rules

fordk4 Well said. This is no time for the soft touch approach. We are far too lenient to wrong doers in this country.

BTW Whoever it was who claimed that the government is combining flu and Covid statistics (can't find the post now) was wrong ....

fullfact.org/health/julia-hartley-brewer-flu-covid/

its time we fined anyone who does not follow the rules instead of making the majority pay for the idiots who flout the rules don't keep blaming the government fine the idiots £5,000 a time and give them a criminal record, take them to court and charge them with endangering the lives of people who do abide by the rules

There was a lot of prevarication and downright lying within the DC case and they both admitted to believing they had the virus, yet they travelled anyway. No different, morally, than Ms Ferrier. My daughter and her husband were both quite ill with the virus symptoms, late March, with two children under six years old and another on the way. They stayed home and managed without help.

The more confused people are the less likely that they will comply with the rules. I live in Scotland and I do agree that Nicola answers all the questions and sounds confidant in what she's saying

No it shows that in a situation like this the country requires leadership, it would have shown leadership to sack Cummings but that didnt happen.

Ms Ferrier (sp) actually had a positive Covid Test and knowingly put others on public transport and various other outlets at risk. A far serious episode than Dominic Cummings.

By that reasoning MaizieD perhaps we should all jump on trains and travel round the UK like a Scottish Female MP or travel miles when the whole of the UK was in lockdown like Mr.Kinnock.

There are lots of folks breaking the rules and using Dominic Cummings as an excuse shows the mentality of some!!

Of someone put their hand in the fire, or drunk themselves stupid and took drugs would the rest of the Country follow?

If certain people had adhered to the rules instead of selfishly doing what they wanted we would not be in the situation we are in now.

Noticeably one Dominic Cummings.... When the person who helped to write the rules breaks them and goes unpunished it's inevitable that people will follow their lead...

I have no way of comparing MayBee but the card we received is good.