Starmer calling for lockdown (Edited by GNHQ)

I'll have a look at that in a minute but I'm sure I had the vaccine much earlier than that.
Probably 1956 or 57, in fact I'm sure it was about then.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO1TJdXZ6Og
Hull in 1961-vaccine

Yes, I remember a girl at my school who was in calipers and I think we were told she caught it at the swimming pool.

I can remember the spoon and the pink vaccine.

A friend of ours had polio, we didn't meet him until adult but there were consequences, which have not held him back, thank goodness.
Mary Berry had polio too which affected one arm.

Callistemon we got the first oral vaccine because Hull was so badly affected by polio. I remember going into a primary school in about 1964 and a little girl age about 10 was in callipers, because she'd had polio.

When I was a teenager ‘time’ was 10.30 pm!

I do remember the outbreak of polio, aka 'infantile paralysis' and pictures in the paper of children in iron lungs, very frightening.
The vaccine was given on a spoon - perhaps they'd run out of sugar lumps.

Yes, we were far less densely populated in 1957 so social distancing wasn't the problem as it is now.

We may have been less densely populated but I think more people proportionately travelled on public transport.
There were also 40 in a class and no thought of distancing - you either caught it or were lucky not to.
Everyone in my class caught it, in two waves, most in the first wave then the stragglers who thought they'd been lucky.

I don't, however, remember people congregating in the streets in large numbers and, quite frankly, people didn't seem to consume the amount of alcohol they do now which makes people less inhibited.

I'm not sure that Asian flu was as virulent as Spanish flu in 1917/20, and that came in separate waves, which is a worrying portent.

With reference to those who believe the covid vaccine will contain some sort of tracing chip used to control us, someone started a thread a few weeks ago claiming just that!

It was a very long rambling opening post but she (or he I guess) didn’t get the support for the crazy theory she was hoping for!

Our cities would respond to a 9-6 curfew by all falling out of the pubs at five to nine and partying at someone’s home all night to stagger home at five past six.
Andy Burnham would keep Manchester partying all night.

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I wonder how our cities here would respond to a 9-6 curfew,
As various French cities are putting in place?!
Mind you, their police are armed.

I think we need more enforcement - police don’t seem to get involved - but preferably stopping short of weapons!

For people wondering why they hadn't heard about Asian Flu, I recommend you read the article in my link above.

The government deliberately played it down because they didn't understand how serious it was and there wasn't any treatment anyway - ventilators were still very primitive and not much use. Not only that, but it was an influenza epidemic not coronavirus and the fatality per case rate was lower.

I remember the polio epidemic because it did affect my life, swimming pools were closed and you were warned not to eat ice cream which was devastating in the summer. Also we got two lots of vaccine because the oral vaccine was just operational I had the injection and just a short time later the sugar lump I was really cross because I had had to have the injection at all.

I honestly don’t think it would Maddy

Do people remember the polio epidemics though if they weren’t personally affected by them? I don’t but my ex does because his mum had polio and they had to go to the hospital each day to see if her name was on a list of fatalities that was put outside the gate each day.

I think a curfew would be a good idea. It would have stopped what happened in Liverpool the other night.

* JenniferEccles* Sensible post. I agree.

Pity people don’t spend more time supporting the government, following the advice and trying to help beat this virus and protecting each other

I don’t remember Asian flu, but then I was probably more concerned with my hoola hoop, whip ‘n’ top and jigsaws at the time, so possibly nobody I knew became ill with it, amongst the family or neighbours.
We didn’t have a tv, only a radio, which wasn’t switched on much anyway.

I wonder how our cities here would respond to a 9-6 curfew,
As various French cities are putting in place?!
Mind you, their police are armed.

I was with my mother this afternoon, I took her shopping. She is 92 years old. I asked her if she remembers the Asian flu epidemics and she said no, she didn’t remember. It makes me think that although many people died that normal life went on as usual, otherwise she’d remember.

I was 16 and working in an East London Hairdressers in 1957, but have absolutely no memories of any effect on my life by the Flu Epidemic that was around then.
In 1968 as the Pandemic of Asian Flu killed (it is said 50 million people worldwise), I was at a mature students teaching college, in the heart of East London. Again, no memory of it effecting my life in any way.
Do not think anybody aged from about 4 or 5yrs upwards who has lived through 2020 will be able to say they cannot remember any effect on their lives.
Do wonder at this, is it because the world is so much smaller now? news is so much more instantaneous? social media, or governments acting on knee jerk reactions.
In neither of these was there anything like the closing down of the economy as has been this time.

An interesting article about the Asian Flu epidemic, in which 20,000 people in the UK died.

www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31201-0/fulltext#:~:text=By%20the%20time%20this%20influenza,more%20than%201%20million%20deaths.

It seems the government didn't realise how serious it would be. As there wasn't much they could do anyway, they decided to play the whole thing down.

Antibiotics only kill bacteria, not viruses.

“ I wouldn't describe arrogance as a definition of a respectable family”. Janpt, I didn’t say that.

I don't know there is any evidence that we are less resistant to viruses. I do know that "lifestyle" illnesses are bigger killers than infectious diseases in the developed world.

Despite the concern about obesity, which threatens to stall the increase in life expectancy, people in the UK live longer and are healthier and taller than any time in the past. It's scandalous that there is such a big difference between poorer and richer areas and totally preventable.