Boris' 'oven ready' deal becomes 'No Deal'

JenniferEccles

I tell you what- shall we all agree with the ‘we are all doooomed’ scenario to put paid to all these incredibly predictable and tediously negative threads once and for all?

You have the answer in your hands.

Simples— don’t read them.

I see that the lorry parks are littered with bottles of urine, and worse, because there are no porta-loos.

Ok: so, instead of making a joke of it tell me something positive about what’s happening.....

I tell you what- shall we all agree with the ‘we are all doooomed’ scenario to put paid to all these incredibly predictable and tediously negative threads once and for all?

I don’t think we have the slightest idea as to how unprepared the U.K. is for January 1st.

Yesterday May asked Michael Gove about policing and National Security post January.

He lied of course, saying we will do better without the knowledge and assistance we currently get from the EU.

May’s reaction was one of astonishment.

brace, brace - this winter will be like no other ever

the combo of Covid + No Deal was never on the cards. Many of us knew that 'project fear' was indeed 'project reality' - but none of us could foresee that Covid would be added.

Grany

“Never in my Parliamentary experience have I witnessed such a collapse in the people’s trust.”

That is a warning.

Johnson will be too stupid – or too selfish – to take it.

@Andrew_Adonis
Betty Boothroyd excoriating Johnson in the House of Lords just now. ‘I was a girl in the 1930s. I saw the poverty & unemployment. So I am alarmed when ministers talk of businesses being unprepared for this dramatic change - when it is the government’s own fault’

twitter.com/Andrew_Adonis/status/1318240048186380294?s=20

I don't think that the government gives a tinker's cuss for anyone's fears and worries, let alone respected parliamentarians. They are not actually interested in governing the country for the benefit of its citizens, just in creating their nasty narrow minded fantasies of how a country should be run and making sure that they and their cronies extract maximum financial benefit from being let loose on the UK's piggy bank.

They have no regard whatsoever for the constitution and the rule of law as they have discovered that the first is completely toothless and the second can be violated with impunity and (ironically) legislated against.

I wish I could believe that justice will catch up with them some day...

Urm, I think the goaders need firmly ignoring! As for Spain! Once was enough!!!

Whitewavemark2

I see the Tesco boss is warning of fresh food shortage for months in the new year.

Oh joy - on top of everything else we go and do this to ourselves!

The psychologists must be having a field day.

Oh good lord
That will start some panicking

“Never in my Parliamentary experience have I witnessed such a collapse in the people’s trust.”

That is a warning.

Johnson will be too stupid – or too selfish – to take it.

@Andrew_Adonis
Betty Boothroyd excoriating Johnson in the House of Lords just now. ‘I was a girl in the 1930s. I saw the poverty & unemployment. So I am alarmed when ministers talk of businesses being unprepared for this dramatic change - when it is the government’s own fault’

twitter.com/Andrew_Adonis/status/1318240048186380294?s=20

if only you knew where I am right now- GG13 lol. But legally, all above board.

Mind you, I suppose Urmstrong might as well make the best of those loopholes she despises for others, but enjoy or herself. Because she won't be able to next year - and she vted for it.

Jealousy ? Of whom? someone who refuses to acknowledge any downsides of leaving the EU? Ok, it’s all going to be marvellous......

I think it’s called jealousy Urmstongran

I’m not under any radar. Stop goading me biba.
Others have tried it.
Framilode and varian.
It’s getting boring now.

I’ve explained my situation politely on a few occasions.

I wish you’d all stop trying to get your digs in. What is it with you people?

UrmstonG 'The referendum question was simply "Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?”

Not "if you think the UK should leave the EU, how?" witha list of options.'

so you are saying that al the promises made during the campaign were totally irrelevant? We were promised a Deal, a great Deal, and vast sums for the NHS, and free and easy trade with the EU. What is the point of campaigns in any vote or election then - if people can very clearly and abundantly lie, and lie some more?

BTW- still in Spain enjoy the sunshine and EU rights and freedom- under the radar?

Got friends in Scotland who produce both gin and single malt- and they are very much Scottish.

Dinahmo

Jaberwok

They didn't need to, we knew it was a possibility, even a probability. It was fairly obvious bearing in mind the fury it would obviously generate!!

I don't suppose that many people thought that no deal was a possibility/probability. Had they been aware that no deal was a possible outcome, they may not have voted to leave.

It's really weird because I don't recall anybody in the run up to the referendum mentioning the possibility of leaving the EU without a trade deal.

It makes me even more cross that all these prescient folks kept dead quiet about it and voted for me to take a 'risk' that I absolutely didn't want to take.

I see the Tesco boss is warning of fresh food shortage for months in the new year.

Oh joy - on top of everything else we go and do this to ourselves!

The psychologists must be having a field day.

Jaberwok

They didn't need to, we knew it was a possibility, even a probability. It was fairly obvious bearing in mind the fury it would obviously generate!!

I don't suppose that many people thought that no deal was a possibility/probability. Had they been aware that no deal was a possible outcome, they may not have voted to leave.

We've progressed from ducks and fish to ducks, fish and gin! If only GN was involved in the negotiations we might have a deal by Christmas!!!!

Gin is SO much cheaper to produce.
A huge profit margin. No wonder the producers love it.
Don’t blame them.
Less effort for their profitability!

As a point of interest ,the Scottish Gin industry is earning almost as much as Whisky...that goes to WM too and doesn't appear on our GDP .

Its PRODUCED here ,the tax should be paid here ..

Urmstongran

Only a quarter (25%) of Scottish whisky distilleries are actually owned by Scottish companies! In fact, there are only a few large companies behind most of the whisky that you drink.
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It hardly matters who owns the distilleries, as the main profit goes direct to the Treasury in London in the form of revenue and taxes.

Tax on Scotch Whisky in the UK currently stands at 72%, meaning around £3 in every £4 spent on Scotch Whisky in the UK goes to the HM Treasury in excise and VAT. Per unit of alcohol, Scotch Whisky is taxed more than any other category of alcohol in the UK. For example, tax on Scotch Whisky is 16% more than tax on wine, and per unit of alcohol duty on wine and cider decreases as product strength increases

So if you buy a bottle of cheap Scotch for say £24, the UK government pockets £18, leaving only £6 to run the distillery, buy the barley, yeast etc, provide barrels and bottles and pay the (well paid) distillery workers before there is any profit for the owners.

They didn't need to, we knew it was a possibility, even a probability. It was fairly obvious bearing in mind the fury it would obviously generate!!

But people listened to the arguments for and against in the run up to the referendum and the leave camp didn’t tell people there would be no deal.