Remember......govern ment promise of Computers and Internet for all students that need them....????

GrannyGravy13

According to the lunchtime news (ITV) the Government have said that there is a problem with the supply chain and it is hopeful that all computers required will be delivered before the Christmas break.

That's not what headteachers have been told. Maybe it's lack of communication, which wouldn't be surprising.

There are dozens of headteachers on the various teachers' groups I visit who are complaining that they have received about a third of the number of computers they requested.

The contract, worth £98 million, was outsourced to a private company, so maybe the government doesn't know what's going on.

The fact is that thousands of children are currently (before the half term break) having to work from home and the situation will almost certainly become worse over the next few weeks before Christmas. There are calls for blended learning to become the norm to make schools safer places, by enabling smaller classes. Christmas is too late!

lemongrove

Am neither desperate ?or a Johnson fan.... but can see that
In exceptional circumstances promises can be broken, although if what GG13 says she has heard is true then there will be computers delivered, even though later than promised.
As to ‘deliberate’ timing, I doubt it was that at all.Your last sentence Gill is emotive and nonsensical.

How many promises- 1, 2, 3, all of the, every single one? How nonsensical is that? Poverty btw, is emotive- and when children have to be home educated, not having a computer means NO education- emotive indeed.

I am still wondering about the 41 brand new hospitals which Boris promised earlier this year as well as the 37 new special schools. Poof! Disappeared.

We are in the midst of a pandemic I know that, but i suspect these will not be seen or heard of again rather like the thousands of extra doctors and nurses needed, who are needed even more now given thise we have are running on empty. Too many promises of this and that which never materialise.

lemongrove

Uh oh! suzie’s line of emojis are back!

Oohhh here’s some more ???????????????????

vegansrock

Some people will defend the government and their choices on spending whatever it is - lorry parks, track n trace contracts, HS2, ferry companies with no ferries etc. then turn round and say there’s no money for schools because of the pandemic......

Eh? What?
Who on here is defending that list of things?

Uh oh! suzie’s line of emojis are back!

The emotive and nonsensical sentence was ‘or do some of you think that if people can’t afford laptops they shouldn’t have children?’
There is absolutely nothing on this thread to support a statement like that.

Some people will defend the government and their choices on spending whatever it is - lorry parks, track n trace contracts, HS2, ferry companies with no ferries etc. then turn round and say there’s no money for schools because of the pandemic......

lemongrove

Am neither desperate ?or a Johnson fan.... but can see that
In exceptional circumstances promises can be broken, although if what GG13 says she has heard is true then there will be computers delivered, even though later than promised.
As to ‘deliberate’ timing, I doubt it was that at all.Your last sentence Gill is emotive and nonsensical.

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do you know what lemon I wrote a lengthy reply to your silly comments, but as I am obviously emotive and nonsensical I am going to quit GN for today, I really don't think I can be bothered to try and discuss things with you anymore. Bye

Am neither desperate ?or a Johnson fan.... but can see that
In exceptional circumstances promises can be broken, although if what GG13 says she has heard is true then there will be computers delivered, even though later than promised.
As to ‘deliberate’ timing, I doubt it was that at all.Your last sentence Gill is emotive and nonsensical.

Oh and for anyone who insists on sticking to the housekeeping school of economics, perhaps the circa £3m tax payer subsidy for the restaurants and bars in the House of Commons could be used to buy laptops for school children that need them? Assuming a cost of £400 each, that would pay for 7500 laptops. As a taxpayer, I know where I would rather spend my money.

I heard a headteacher on Radio 4 this morning say that he received the news at 5.50 on Friday, the last day of half term, after school had finished, that his school would not be getting the computers they were expecting. He was expecting 30 and was told he would get 4. The litany of broken promises goes on and on, and regrettably, the support from a few desperate Johnson fans goes on and on too. Don't you understand that it is not the fact that they are not getting the computers, it is the broken promise, the deliberate timing, the fact that they will now have to rework the whole schedule again to try and make it fair? Or do some of you think that if people can't afford laptops they shouldn't have children?

According to the lunchtime news (ITV) the Government have said that there is a problem with the supply chain and it is hopeful that all computers required will be delivered before the Christmas break.

There is no danger of inflation in the UK for the foreseeable future. That's the main reason that the BoE has reduced interest rates. Inflation happens when there is a shortage of goods for people to buy. At the moment, there are unsold goods sitting in warehouses, but people don't want to spend their money.

Inflation would actually be one way of reducing the debt. It also encourages spending, which increases GDP.

Who do you think the government owes the money to?

MaizieD We would soon resemble those bankrupt countries if we did as you advocate, why do you think we have never gone down the easy route of printing money for everything.
Quantitive easing is a way of helping but cannot be done forever.
You do seem to think that only you ( and maybe a chosen few left wing posters) are the only ones who understand economics.Many economists have differing views on what best to do, but rampant inflation on top of all our woes with Covid would finish the UK off.Feel free to disagree.

lemongrove

Maizie you have been giving lessons in economics on here for years.?
There is only part truth in what you say.....that’s the way countries go bust ( printing huge amounts of money).
The billions that the virus has cost this country and debt accrued will affect everyone for years to come.

Japan has had a much bigger debt for years and hasn't gone bust.

lemongrove

Maizie you have been giving lessons in economics on here for years.?
There is only part truth in what you say.....that’s the way countries go bust ( printing huge amounts of money).
The billions that the virus has cost this country and debt accrued will affect everyone for years to come.

And you have been displaying an ignorance of economics for years, too, lemon as once again you trot out that old mantra.

Try looking a little more deeply at why' the usual suspects associated with this mantra suffered roaring inflation. Then come back and tell me how the UK in any way resembles them.

Maizie you have been giving lessons in economics on here for years.?
There is only part truth in what you say.....that’s the way countries go bust ( printing huge amounts of money).
The billions that the virus has cost this country and debt accrued will affect everyone for years to come.

Predictable replies.

lemongrove

Wait! Let me think.....can this be anything to do with all the billions having to be spent because we have a killer virus on the loose!?

Most of which has been trousered by Tory supporters whether they know what they are doing or not.

lemongrove

Wait! Let me think.....can this be anything to do with all the billions having to be spent because we have a killer virus on the loose!?

No

lemongrove

Wait! Let me think.....can this be anything to do with all the billions having to be spent because we have a killer virus on the loose!?

No it doesn't, lemon because national finances are not finite in the same way that household or business finances are. Just about any economist will tell you that, you just prefer to let the government con you.

The government is absolutely aware that there is no limit on the money they can create and spend. They're gleefully distributing it to friends, relations and tory donors by way of untendered for and unscrutinised contracts for £billions of expenditure which has yet to have successful results.

They could equally spend a few £million on fulfilling promises made to UK citizens about laptops for all poor children and no children being left to go hungry. But they won't because there's no profit in it for their mates and it puts too much strain on their ideological commitment to cutting state spending to the bone.

They depend on the gullible like you to support their actions.