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provocative phrases

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PECS Mon 26-Oct-20 11:30:53

I noticed someone us the phrase virtual signaling on a thread.. It is on a par with politically correct.

It seems to me that people use these phrases, constructed deliberately as political put downs, to undermine someone /something that is trying to improve things for others.

Are the people who do this feeling uncomfortable or embarrassed by the action that they are deriding? If someone tries to to good by raising the profile of a charity or of a situation that is causing distress they are 'accused' of 'virtue signalling' as if it is a bad thing to try to improve things for other people.

If someone tries to improve the experience of others through challenging the status quo /currently accepted language/attitude etc they are 'accused' of being politically correct...as if it was a bad thing to be thoughtful of others!

Do these phrases grate with you or do you think they are valid?

suziewoozie Mon 26-Oct-20 17:05:06

My first post at 17.03 was to lemon

suziewoozie Mon 26-Oct-20 17:03:42

Meaning?

suziewoozie Mon 26-Oct-20 17:03:03

This could be seen as a lazy way to stop an argument you are losing ?

janipat Mon 26-Oct-20 17:02:56

Oh dear, some egos are gargantuan ????

suziewoozie Mon 26-Oct-20 17:01:51

Nothing wrong with being open about your abilities - I’m also an excellent cook and superb organiser.

biba70 Mon 26-Oct-20 17:01:09

'chill' or 'take a chill pill' is a vastly well known insult thrown at anyone you disagree with and argues the point.

lemongrove Mon 26-Oct-20 17:01:02

Shall we leave politics out of this thread? It surely wasn’t the intention of the OP.

suziewoozie Mon 26-Oct-20 17:00:34

But what I posted is true nevertheless

suziewoozie Mon 26-Oct-20 16:59:02

I explained on another thread how such abbreviations/acronyms save me a lot of time . Not bothering to check facts and happily posting untruths is also a lazy way of being critical and much used on here by some RW posters

lemongrove Mon 26-Oct-20 16:58:39

suziewoozie

Really ? I’m one of the most articulate posters on GN and rarely lose arguments

This sounds rather Trumpian

Callistemon Mon 26-Oct-20 16:57:43

And very humorous too, sw

???

Callistemon Mon 26-Oct-20 16:56:47

Pray tell.

I did.

lemongrove Mon 26-Oct-20 16:56:39

....and modest too suzie ?

suziewoozie Mon 26-Oct-20 16:55:25

Really ? I’m one of the most articulate posters on GN and rarely lose arguments

lemongrove Mon 26-Oct-20 16:54:07

Using FFS to another poster is a lazy way to be critical.

suziewoozie Mon 26-Oct-20 16:53:09

PECS

Oh a whole range of people swear from the Queen to me! It crosses class and political values so harder to define the 'views' of a swearer!

Exactly

Callistemon Mon 26-Oct-20 16:52:46

Oh, I didn't say I don't, PECS!

But swearing at other posters on social media seems to indicate that the poster is either losing an argument or unable to articulate their thoughts clearly.

suziewoozie Mon 26-Oct-20 16:51:13

Callistemon

^I just look at the people who employ the phrases do-gooders, politically correct, virtue signalling and it tells me all I need to know about them and their views on well, just about anything really. It also tells me about their lack of capacity for any critical thought.^

That may well be true and the same may well be true of those who resort to swear words.

Pray tell.

PECS Mon 26-Oct-20 16:49:41

Oh a whole range of people swear from the Queen to me! It crosses class and political values so harder to define the 'views' of a swearer!

Callistemon Mon 26-Oct-20 16:44:24

I just look at the people who employ the phrases do-gooders, politically correct, virtue signalling and it tells me all I need to know about them and their views on well, just about anything really. It also tells me about their lack of capacity for any critical thought.

That may well be true and the same may well be true of those who resort to swear words.

suziewoozie Mon 26-Oct-20 16:37:42

I use the phrase ‘pearl clutches’ sometimes to posters who feign horror at ‘swearing’. I mean really, FFS.

Galaxy Mon 26-Oct-20 16:34:59

I usually see it in terms of women raising concerns about prostitution, porn etc.

janipat Mon 26-Oct-20 16:34:32

ageist as well as sexist, the double whammy!

PECS Mon 26-Oct-20 16:33:19

I always assumed a 'pearl clutcher' was referring to an older woman who overreacts to situations in an rather pretentious way. A bit of a Mrs Bucket character!

Any phrase used perjoratively is to be avoided!

Callistemon Mon 26-Oct-20 16:31:00

It's worrying when those who wear masks are accused of being virtue signallers as happened in the US.

Is it akin to moral grandstanding?

Phrases fall in and out of fashion.