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It looks as if Trump will win now

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lemongrove Wed 04-Nov-20 08:05:28

Looking at the figures, it seems very likely that Trump has won a second term.How that will affect the world remains to be seen.?

Summerlove Wed 04-Nov-20 17:14:17

KatB

I didn't comment to argue with anyone here. I believe many people from other countries, as well as Americans, just don't know the facts. I've done much research. I used to be a Democrat until I saw firsthand all the corruption. Maybe both parties are corrupt. But I believe Trump has been a good leader and hopefully will continue to do so.

Disagreeing with your facts, isn’t arguing per se. But for someone who wants to spread true information, you need to make sure you have it. Look at the laws. Pennsylvania is in the right right now, and Trump is upset that he is losing.

bonfirebirthday Wed 04-Nov-20 17:13:28

There appears to be a problem with the postal voting which I cannot understand. Trump seems to assume he has won the election and is saying the conting should cease as these are not legitimate votes. I am confused. However, it seems to be of a choice between a totally loose cannon and someone with the onset of dementia. Perhaps there should be an upper age limit imposed on US presidents?

Summerlove Wed 04-Nov-20 17:12:38

@wwmk2

KatB Wed 04-Nov-20 17:11:58

I didn't comment to argue with anyone here. I believe many people from other countries, as well as Americans, just don't know the facts. I've done much research. I used to be a Democrat until I saw firsthand all the corruption. Maybe both parties are corrupt. But I believe Trump has been a good leader and hopefully will continue to do so.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 04-Nov-20 17:06:25

Another gem

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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They are working hard to make up 500,000 vote advantage in Pennsylvania disappear — ASAP. Likewise, Michigan and others!

Summerlove Wed 04-Nov-20 17:04:01

“Finding”
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Whitewavemark2 Wed 04-Nov-20 16:59:57

?????

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
They are finding Biden votes all over the place — in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan. So bad for our Country!

rosecarmel Wed 04-Nov-20 16:53:30

Summerlove

KatB

Reading these comments there is so much misinformation! Biden had over 45 years in politics to do all the things he says he'll do. He criticized Trump for banning travel from China then said he didn't do it soon enough. Trump has not asked to stop counting votes! He wants the legitimate votes to be counted. There are rules! Pennsylvania wants to keep counting incoming votes until November 12! "Election day" is just that.

Cnn had a great article on other years when elections were called. In 2000 it was December.

Trump wants wants to stop counting votes because he’s losing his lead. These ARE Legal votes.

Pennsylvania has had rules in place for years stating how long they have to accept votes. That’s not new this year. As long as they were postmarked by election day, they are in fact legal votes.

I think you might be the one who needs to do research

I agree-

Fennel Wed 04-Nov-20 16:51:30

Maybe the only one willing to stand the test?
They could have asked Clint Eastwood, Robert de Niro etc

Calender37 Wed 04-Nov-20 16:51:01

Jane10. In complete agreement. I wonder how many people, outside America, realise that it really matters to the remainder of the whole world who is the President, given the power of the USA on the international scene.

Summerlove Wed 04-Nov-20 16:49:37

KatB

Reading these comments there is so much misinformation! Biden had over 45 years in politics to do all the things he says he'll do. He criticized Trump for banning travel from China then said he didn't do it soon enough. Trump has not asked to stop counting votes! He wants the legitimate votes to be counted. There are rules! Pennsylvania wants to keep counting incoming votes until November 12! "Election day" is just that.

Cnn had a great article on other years when elections were called. In 2000 it was December.

Trump wants wants to stop counting votes because he’s losing his lead. These ARE Legal votes.

Pennsylvania has had rules in place for years stating how long they have to accept votes. That’s not new this year. As long as they were postmarked by election day, they are in fact legal votes.

I think you might be the one who needs to do research

tricia12 Wed 04-Nov-20 16:41:45

was biden really the best opposition they could find in the whole of the usa ?

B9exchange Wed 04-Nov-20 16:34:09

Hithere, this is a relatively new thing for her, so I am waiting to see what happens. She is so specific, she is apparently going to meet the love of her life in January, and he will be called Paul. My breath is baited! grin

KatB Wed 04-Nov-20 16:29:59

Reading these comments there is so much misinformation! Biden had over 45 years in politics to do all the things he says he'll do. He criticized Trump for banning travel from China then said he didn't do it soon enough. Trump has not asked to stop counting votes! He wants the legitimate votes to be counted. There are rules! Pennsylvania wants to keep counting incoming votes until November 12! "Election day" is just that.

Galaxy Wed 04-Nov-20 16:27:26

He didnt mean a delusion about trumps abilities, he meant about the level of his support.

Hithere Wed 04-Nov-20 16:27:03

B9exchange

Has your relative had other premonitions before?

If so, what did it end up happening?

Summerlove Wed 04-Nov-20 16:26:48

KatB

"Just listening to someone on the radio saying many outside of Anerica hold a kind of collective delusion about trump and his supporters because we dont understand it and just cant comprehend it. I dont think the Farage thing is the same because as an individual he doesnt win in elections."
You hit the nail on the head. Millions of us support our President for all the great things he's done for our country. They call him racist yet he's done more for Blacks, Hispanics and other minorities than any president since Lincoln. Our economy has been the best ever until the pandemic and it's recovering. Most of what you read in mainstream news is biased. There's so much more-- look up Trump's accomplishments. Look into the Hunter Biden scandal that Joe is involved in, taking bribes from China, Russia & Ukraine.

What has he done for minorities?
I honestly can’t find anything good

KatB Wed 04-Nov-20 16:21:35

"Just listening to someone on the radio saying many outside of Anerica hold a kind of collective delusion about trump and his supporters because we dont understand it and just cant comprehend it. I dont think the Farage thing is the same because as an individual he doesnt win in elections."
You hit the nail on the head. Millions of us support our President for all the great things he's done for our country. They call him racist yet he's done more for Blacks, Hispanics and other minorities than any president since Lincoln. Our economy has been the best ever until the pandemic and it's recovering. Most of what you read in mainstream news is biased. There's so much more-- look up Trump's accomplishments. Look into the Hunter Biden scandal that Joe is involved in, taking bribes from China, Russia & Ukraine.

B9exchange Wed 04-Nov-20 16:18:32

I have a relative in the States who is convinced she can predict the future (have to confess I am sceptical). But she says Biden will win, and Trump will be assassinated at his resort of Mar a Lago in the first two weeks of February. I hope she is wrong on the second point, first because I don't like clairvoyance, and second because I would never want anyone to get shot, no matter what they have done.

mumofmadboys Wed 04-Nov-20 16:16:17

I cannot see how anyone could vote for Trump. I think he is an appalling man.

humptydumpty Wed 04-Nov-20 16:13:35

It's looking now as if, by a very slim margin, Bid4en might win (fingers crossed!)

AGAA4 Wed 04-Nov-20 15:50:56

Biden is in the lead. If he wins it is a certainty that Trump won't go quietly. Even before the final vote is in he is saying he will go to the US Supreme Court with alleged fraud (unproved) in the voting system.

Tillybelle Wed 04-Nov-20 15:45:46

I've been listening live on ABC/Twitter all day and nobody yet knows!

From what they are saying this might drag on with court cases as well. The longer it takes the more harm it will do the USA and the rest of the world in fact. This is a very difficult time.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 04-Nov-20 15:39:18

Grandma70s

I missed who it was, but someone on television described it as a choice between bad and very bad. Sums it up nicely.

It is the damage that can be done by the very bad that you’ve got to think about though.

Grandma70s Wed 04-Nov-20 15:37:39

I missed who it was, but someone on television described it as a choice between bad and very bad. Sums it up nicely.