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Whitewavemark2 Fri 06-Nov-20 08:17:35

There are rumours that the U.K. in wavering in its negotiations.

At long last reality is setting in.

A couple of reasons.

It is likely that Trump, who has supported Brexit and promised a “great deal” ?has been defeated. Johnson has lost his only foreign supporter.

Looking at the economic forecast it is grim. Our figures are the worst in the western world at the moment and will take another huge hit if Johnson commits hari kari and goes for No deal.

Greta8 Mon 09-Nov-20 12:34:21

alliance not allowance!!!!

Greta8 Mon 09-Nov-20 12:33:56

Personally I'm delighted that Biden has won. It means that effectively the Tory government have been reined in - as they no longer have Trump in their unholy allowance- they will have to negotiate a deal on Brexit which will be so much better for everyone. The thought of a no-deal Brexit was really scary - potential for chaos. Poor old Boris - not going too well for him is it?

GrannyGravy13 Mon 09-Nov-20 12:25:42

The Government has an eighty seat majority, unless there is a mass ignoring of the party whip they will carry on for the next four years.

This can be firmly laid at the door of the Labour Party who went knowingly into the last election with a an unelectable Party Leader.

Thais is in reply to Whitewavemark2 at 8,24 this morning.

MayBee70 Mon 09-Nov-20 11:39:35

Wasn’t it Johnson’s sister who said he had many friends that stood to make a lot of money out of a no deal brexit? He won’t be popular with them either the way things are going.

nanna8 Mon 09-Nov-20 11:24:07

Far-right but with a much higher IQ. Boris is for Boris and not for the UK. Should have stuck with Theresa.

Alexa Mon 09-Nov-20 11:08:59

Boris Johnson is the same sort of man as Donald Trump. Stubbornly far -right.

lemongrove Mon 09-Nov-20 09:39:10

I didn’t say they were directly from him.....just the sort of OTT things he comes out with.....like the Murphy blog you repeat elsewhere on GN.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 09-Nov-20 09:32:50

lemongrove

You’ve been overdosing on Richard Murphy blogs again ww
?

None of those posts was from Richard Murphy.

Making wild accusations is never very clever

lemongrove Mon 09-Nov-20 09:29:56

You’ve been overdosing on Richard Murphy blogs again ww
?

Whitewavemark2 Mon 09-Nov-20 08:24:14

If Johnson insists on pressing ahead with the Internal Market Bill, we are going to end without a deal with either the EU or USA.

Prepare for another u-turn.

How long is this country going to be prepared to be marched up then down hills by this idiot government?

Whitewavemark2 Sun 08-Nov-20 07:54:22

We are so stuffed.

We have rejected the EU and the USA has rejected us.

We stand alone.

Still it’s what people wanted apparently.

No belief in the new inclusiveness, but standing firm as good nationalists should.

Pathetic.

biba70 Sat 07-Nov-20 21:40:04

Let's-but it is all clear for all to see right now, if you have your eyes opened ;)

lemongrove Sat 07-Nov-20 21:37:59

Shall we wait and see??

biba70 Sat 07-Nov-20 21:34:42

We will get a deal, but not on our terms- we will have to take the Deal they deign give to us at this stage. The reality I am afraid, as they know we just can't walk.

Fact.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 07-Nov-20 21:28:32

Oh there has to be a deal now. But they have buggered about for so long it won’t be nearly as good as it should or could be.

I am assuming even the Tories wouldn’t inflict a no deal on their country even though they clearly feel no patriotism.

lemongrove Sat 07-Nov-20 21:23:41

It’s a small element in the Conservative Party who wanted no deal, but not long to go now, so we shall see what happens.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 07-Nov-20 21:09:44

lemongrove

We want a trade deal with the EU and they want one with us,
It’s always been bluff and counter bluff right up to the end.

You might have wanted a deal, but that is not true of an element in the Tory party, and the element that held too much influence.

lemongrove Sat 07-Nov-20 20:58:03

We want a trade deal with the EU and they want one with us,
It’s always been bluff and counter bluff right up to the end.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 07-Nov-20 20:51:32

“Biden's victory means that the Tories cannot go for a no-deal as that would entail a violation of the GFA which would rule out any trade deal with the USA. In consequence the EU has the UK over a barrel”

Whitewavemark2 Sat 07-Nov-20 20:38:49

lemongrove

Is Biden your guru now WW ( you seem to be attributing all the wisdom in the world to him) on GN pages.
It may be wise to see what kind of President he makes before all the gushing praise.He has to be better than Trump, but so far that’s all I can see.

Only as far as how he will affect Brexit. You surely have worked that out?

biba70 Sat 07-Nov-20 20:37:13

you need to educate yourself and read about his life and his experience- and you will perhaps see why we are hopeful. He has massive experience.

You are beginning to sound like a sore loser ;) if I may.

lemongrove Sat 07-Nov-20 20:31:57

Is Biden your guru now WW ( you seem to be attributing all the wisdom in the world to him) on GN pages.
It may be wise to see what kind of President he makes before all the gushing praise.He has to be better than Trump, but so far that’s all I can see.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 07-Nov-20 20:24:12

lemongrove

I and other Brexiters ( just over half the population who voted that way) did not win ‘disgracefully’ ? lordy, when will the sour grapes end?

No, but as Biden said, susceptible to demagogues and charlatans.

biba70 Sat 07-Nov-20 20:21:32

fraudulently then- and that is clear, and proven.

lemongrove Sat 07-Nov-20 20:19:07

I and other Brexiters ( just over half the population who voted that way) did not win ‘disgracefully’ ? lordy, when will the sour grapes end?