How confident are you in a good deal for the UK?

Jaberwok

Spain was neutral during WW2, perhaps you were unaware of that WW.

No, I was talking about the fascists so many Brits went to fight in the 30s.

Jaberwok

A lot of the resistance fighters were betrayed by their own countrymen . Vichy France in particular, although rounding up and exporting Jews was top of their list. They may have used us as a safe haven when it suited, but help us?!! I don't think so

This is so low- pathetic.

I forecast that one day, we will see how the people of the UK were betrayed by a handful of very very rich people who wanted to avoid scrutiny of their tax evasion by the trillions - those now threatening even Johnson not to do a Deal with the EU that would save 100s of 1000s of jobs and avoid massive shortages (do you know we import the chemicals to purify water, just as a simple example) ...

and sold their idea to many of the people by playing on the anti immigrant sentiments (call it xenophobiaif you wish- and certainly was for some people), in the gutter presse owned by the above.

It is hugely sad, tragic, pathetic.

Yes, Harold and William ... I never brought them in to the conversation.

I know GrannyGravy ?it gets bizarre at times.

That was in response to your Vikings biba ?

Normal Brexit thread Lemongrove like walking through the Looking Glass with Alice.

True enough.
Still....back to the 21st century now?

Britannia is not going to rule the waves this time ...

vegansrock

So many sweeping generalisations “ The French have never done anything to help the U.K.”. What a hate-filled statement.
Meanwhile we have to rely on the charm offensive of liar lazy Johnson and his generous offer of dropping the illegal clauses. Not holding my breath

It is despicable- and more.... very dangerous.

Because like it or not, want it or not- our ex and now scorned allies and partners- will decide what comes in and out of the Island(s) of UK - they can control the ports, the roads in and out and the air space too. *iss them off enough, and they will give you their answer, and it won't be pleasant.

This on top of

More on the continuing British ports crisis:

On top of skyrocketing shipping rates, carriers are adding congestion charges for iports to Felixstowe and Southampton, because of severe delays.

BBC News - Price rises likely due to UK Shipping problems

Not my idea to bring in William and Harold into the conversation- but ... Neither of them were English, or French ...

Seem to be getting further and further away from the OP.....
Viking hordes now.?

seamstress

What about that French William The Conqueror as well? Murdering English Harold and taking the throne. As for that German speaking Queen Victoria and her bloody descendants. Did nothing for us.

Viking cousin, against Viking cousin ...

Spain was neutral during WW2, perhaps you were unaware of that WW.

Gove would never be chosen to be the next leader, he isn’t popular within in or out of the Conservative Party.

My favourite Gove story...

He told the press that the EU had been the cause of the closure of his father's fish processing business in Aberdeen. Couple of days later his father popped up in the press to say that wasn't the case at all, the EU had nothing to do with it.

Nice man, he even lies about his father to further his own political aims.

David0205

Don’t take the p* out of Gove, he will be seen by the gullible voters as a savior and be top of the list to replace BJ, he is a slippery ambitious man for all seasons.

Frankly it can’t get any worse, they got rid of all those that displayed honesty and integrity, with the strength to speak truth to power, so it hardly matters who is the next leader.

Don’t take the p* out of Gove, he will be seen by the gullible voters as a savior and be top of the list to replace BJ, he is a slippery ambitious man for all seasons.

“What a total prat, that is what we had before brexit.”

LOL

They could have had that a couple of years ago, I was not expecting them to climb down that far, it’s a humiliation.
Apparently any tariffs are going to be levied on ALL goods crossing the Irish Sea, then NI businesses are going to claim the tariff back.

However NI will have to follow some EU rules, not sure exactly what.

Now we want a Fisheries deal

What about that French William The Conqueror as well? Murdering English Harold and taking the throne. As for that German speaking Queen Victoria and her bloody descendants. Did nothing for us.

I would be fascinated by your views on your germans, as my father is german, or is it just the french today?

A bit of humour

Jaberwok

A lot of the resistance fighters were betrayed by their own countrymen . Vichy France in particular, although rounding up and exporting Jews was top of their list. They may have used us as a safe haven when it suited, but help us?!! I don't think so

Blimey we are re- fighting the war now!

And as for those bloody Germans !!, not to mention the Italians and Spanish.

Lies, lies, lies

A lot of the resistance fighters were betrayed by their own countrymen . Vichy France in particular, although rounding up and exporting Jews was top of their list. They may have used us as a safe haven when it suited, but help us?!! I don't think so

No deal will mean that the U.K. will be the only country in the world EVER to voluntarily impose sanctions on itself.