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How confident are you in a good deal for the UK?

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Trisha57 Fri 04-Dec-20 22:48:56

Just that really. Watching the News tonight and it seems there are conflicting views, as always.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 09-Dec-20 08:03:11

Talking about the NI issue I heard Gove in selling the decision, that what the N Irish will have now is the best of both worlds and how lucky that is.

What a total prat, that is what we had before brexit.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 09-Dec-20 07:58:22

So I wonder how the headbangers are reacting to the border down the Irish Sea ?

Something Johnson said would never happen.

A man of myriad u-turns is Johnson.

vegansrock Wed 09-Dec-20 07:49:12

Yes most big companies and utilities are foreign owned - Rolls Royce, Walkers Crisps, Cadbury’s, EDF, water companies, etc etc. The idea that we can be “independent” without the influence of other countries is laughable.

Galaxy Wed 09-Dec-20 07:46:47

Can I just say slightly off topic how much I hate the sneering about those who read newspapers, it's just so unpleasant.

Firecracker123 Wed 09-Dec-20 07:33:22

Happy Days ?

David0205 Wed 09-Dec-20 07:19:18

vegansrock

So many sweeping generalisations “ The French have never done anything to help the U.K.”. What a hate-filled statement.
Meanwhile we have to rely on the charm offensive of liar lazy Johnson and his generous offer of dropping the illegal clauses. Not holding my breath

The problem is that the French are more nationalistic than the British and much more passionate about it too. They have protected their core industries whereas we have flogged off ours to the highest bidder, you would be surprised how many UK companies are French owned

vegansrock Wed 09-Dec-20 06:45:09

So many sweeping generalisations “ The French have never done anything to help the U.K.”. What a hate-filled statement.
Meanwhile we have to rely on the charm offensive of liar lazy Johnson and his generous offer of dropping the illegal clauses. Not holding my breath

MaizieD Tue 08-Dec-20 22:50:38

lemongrove

That’s the dear old tabloids for you.....it’s what they do, twist words and embellish stories.
Anyone with an ounce of intelligence has to look further than
The pages of The Sun, The Mirror, Daily Mail etc.

The Times and the Telegraph are just as bad. That only leaves the Guardian, the Independent and the Mirror. But no-one reads them, surely?

MayBee70 Tue 08-Dec-20 22:42:08

Must be difficult for a second rate journalist to have to attempt to operate at that level I suppose.

Alegrias2 Tue 08-Dec-20 22:29:21

Johnson just been on the news saying how difficult things were and smirking about it. It's all a game for him, isn't it?

MayBee70 Tue 08-Dec-20 22:25:10

That’s an insult to the French people who died in the resistance during the war. Oh, silly me. It isn’t about the war or furriners is it....

lemongrove Tue 08-Dec-20 22:17:14

Hahaha.....the French have never made an effort to do anything that helps the UK....in or out of the EU.

biba70 Tue 08-Dec-20 22:14:59

lemongrove

That’s the dear old tabloids for you.....it’s what they do, twist words and embellish stories.
Anyone with an ounce of intelligence has to look further than
The pages of The Sun, The Mirror, Daily Mail etc.

very large numbers of Brexiters did not ...

biba70 Tue 08-Dec-20 22:13:52

what is baloney, is to pretend to sign up to a Withdrawal Agreement, get it passed by Parliament - and yet already planning to totally bypass it, right from the start (even much earlier in March) breaking International Law.

The emotions are real, and high- in the EU- with ordinary citizens who are appalled about the lack of respect shown by Johnson, the ERG, and, as they see it, the people of the UK.

Amazing how people who have shown masses of emotions about Sovereignty and gaining back control, etc- say that emotions are not involved.

Don't expect the French to make a huge effort to try and limit the consequences of a No Deal- especially in Ports, Customs and MWays.

MayBee70 Tue 08-Dec-20 22:13:09

I thought it was wrong to question the intelligence of voters? Anyway, you obviously don’t know of people that have had breakdowns due to brexit so I’ll just leave you to your celebrations.

Callistemon Tue 08-Dec-20 22:11:44

MayBee70

So how do you feel about the blatant lies that we’re spread all over the tabloids in the run up to the referendum. Or the one calling people traitors for daring to uphold the law?

Surely you don't read them??

lemongrove Tue 08-Dec-20 22:07:52

That’s the dear old tabloids for you.....it’s what they do, twist words and embellish stories.
Anyone with an ounce of intelligence has to look further than
The pages of The Sun, The Mirror, Daily Mail etc.

MayBee70 Tue 08-Dec-20 22:03:20

So how do you feel about the blatant lies that we’re spread all over the tabloids in the run up to the referendum. Or the one calling people traitors for daring to uphold the law?

lemongrove Tue 08-Dec-20 21:48:50

Good for you Maybee .....but nobody else had responded to that particular post.....it was worth my reposting of it.

lemongrove Tue 08-Dec-20 21:46:57

Why do posters always assume there is so much ‘emotion’ going on with the EU.....it’s all business ( or rather money)
They will do what’s in the best interests (money) for them, and although we will do much the same, it’s an element of compromise on both sides ....so all this stuff about ‘a nasty lying wasting time game’ ( how the EU border countries according to biba regard the UK) is baloney.

MayBee70 Tue 08-Dec-20 21:41:00

I’m sorry to disappoint you but I’m always pleased when someone posts something that is well researched and means that people’s health will not be at risk. Which doesn’t mean that I don’t have a right to be angry about blatant lies spread across the front pages of newspapers.

lemongrove Tue 08-Dec-20 21:37:45

David0205

To elaborate, we remain NATO members so no problem with military flights.
International flights are flights and crew licensing are agreed with EASA the European regulator
Our own CAA are integrating other pilots regulations with the EASA system.

Other than probably a separate immigration lane for U.K. travelers there will be few changes, maybe the computers for E Passports will need reprogramming.

David this is not what some avid Remainers wish to hear, it’s too cheerful a post.

lemongrove Tue 08-Dec-20 21:36:28

Jaberwok

Oh dear! As you said Lemon, best ignored!

Absolutely ?.....they are getting more worked up with every post.

biba70 Tue 08-Dec-20 21:18:46

Silly Peter Bone today saying that if there is No Deal, it will be all the fault of the French, because it always is, historically ...

how stupid. And of course, the French Press, TV and Social media pick this up and it is brodcasted far and wide.

But certainly, if the French and other border EU countries believe, as they certainly will, that the UK has played a nasty, lying, wasting time game - they will not bend over backwards to help with red tape and border/customs issues. That I can guarantee.

varian Tue 08-Dec-20 20:27:35

Those who have always buried their heads in the sand ignore everything. It is the only way they can keep repeating the lies.