A new name for the UK - Plague Island

Of course there is a last minute deal. I’d love to have been a fly on the wall/telephone. Maybe Macron did actually play a blinder by showing the U.K. just how unprepared we were for no deal? Now it will be fun seeing the ERG desperately trying to vote it down. And some Labour supporters criticising Starmer who will probably, in the best interest of the country, vote for it. This is just the beginning (or is it the end of the beginning etc etc). Either way I’m incredibly relieved tonight because all I’ve ever wanted is what’s best for this country, our friends in Europe, Ireland and Gibraltar. So I’ve probably got my most rubbish deal ever in the history of rubbish deals but, hey a rubbish deal is better than no deal. I wonder what Johnson will call it. Australia, Canada plus plus, Neverland, Narnia? And look forward, when the terms slowly unfold, to so many people saying that this is exactly what they wanted. G’night....

Casdon

If ever there was a Pyrrhic victory.

Wait until the details start coming out. Stuff is being leaked already and it will cause a lot of anger I think. Never mind what the ERG think.

If ever there was a Pyrrhic victory.

You have to admit whitewave you got it wrong many times
With your announcements of ‘done deals’ ( Lord knows where you were finding this mis-information.)?

Lots of posters ( including me and Petra) always said there would be a last minute deal as that’s how the EU always operates, but various posters wanted to continue with the ‘woe, woe and thrice woe’ stuff.

petra

Whitewavemk2
It's obvious from your post that my comments hit the spot. Thank you.

No problem. ?

Whitewavemk2
It's obvious from your post that my comments hit the spot. Thank you.

MayBee70

petra

Whitewavemk2
Exactly a week ago you wrote large A DEAL IS DONE.
That didn't happen so you then stated very confidently that the deal will be signed this weekend That was last weekend btw.

So what? Why are you making a BIG DEAL out of that?

? I had to tip a grin when I saw it. Poor old petra.

MayBee70
Because over the years we have been told many times to
check your facts Obviously the facts weren't checked.

petra

Whitewavemk2
Exactly a week ago you wrote large A DEAL IS DONE.
That didn't happen so you then stated very confidently that the deal will be signed this weekend That was last weekend btw.

So what? Why are you making a BIG DEAL out of that?

And those who voted Remain did consistently & vociferously deny on GN threads that Boris was trying to get a trade deal. Said he was hell bent on no deal to make squillions for his mates. Blah-de-blah.

And several did keep positing that the EU terms & conditions for labour rights were far superior. Wrong again - I’m happy to say.

I’m joyous.
Brexit is happening.
And a deal is about to be announced!
?

Whitewavemk2
Exactly a week ago you wrote large A DEAL IS DONE.
That didn't happen so you then stated very confidently that the deal will be signed this weekend That was last weekend btw.

Urmstongran
It's known as europes dirty secret Hardly a secret. It's humongous ?

GrannyGravy
How could I forget ? I first drove though the complex 10 years ago. It was a shortcut to a campsite on the beach. No longer possible as the plastic waste has ruined that beach.
The pictures you see don't come close to the horror of the place. But people are still happy to buy the wonderful fresh fruit and veg produced there.

I wonder why the posters who are supporters of this government always feel compelled to make personal remarks about those who oppose so much of the chaos and incompetence of this government.

I suppose it’s because their arguments are inadequate. Can’t think why else they enjoy making it so personal.

GrannyGravy13

petra don’t forget the poor people working and living in appalling conditions in the veg/fruit poly tunnels in Spain.

Surely not GG13?
I thought Barnier & Ursula vdL we’re worried about US in the UK undermining that level playing field for unfair advantages?
?

And so many Remainers used to say how the EU terms & conditions were superior (rot) and were very concerned Tory grandees were about to slash OUR labour rights?

The truth is somewhere in the middle I expect. Neither side is perfect.

I said 'some are' ...

petra ?

petra don’t forget the poor people working and living in appalling conditions in the veg/fruit poly tunnels in Spain.

petra

Urmstongran
You haven't turned into Mystic Megmk2, have you?
As we know those predictions didn't pan out ?

I’m only ever quoting what I hear and read. That was on the BBC tonight.

Unpleasant xenophobia should have no place on Gransnet.

Urmstongran
You haven't turned into Mystic Megmk2, have you?
As we know those predictions didn't pan out ?

I respectfully beg to disagree WW.

Lucca that was not my description and I never said I found it funny.

EllanVannin
You don't have to go as far as the Phillipines. 3/12 hrs on a plane will take you to some shameful ( for the eu) Roma settlements in Romania and Bulgaria.

ug I think it is nearer Mays deal than we might expect.

Apparently the EU has hardly moved