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Brexit -émigre Brits refused reentry to their European home countries

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GagaJo Wed 06-Jan-21 10:52:48

First Spain, then Germany. Resident Brits who have travelled back to the UK (WHY?) have been refused reentry to their European home countries.

www.thelocal.es/20210103/brits-unable-to-fly-home-to-spain-after-pre-brexit-residency-documents-refused

uk.yahoo.com/style/british-citizens-turned-away-flights-101630599.html

Baggs Wed 06-Jan-21 11:12:47

I looked at the links. Seems what problems there were are pretty much over already. Blips in bureaucratic systems happen.

Shrug.

Dinahmo Wed 06-Jan-21 12:47:57

Some years ago my OH was in the queue at Bergerac airport waiting for a Ryanair flight back to Stansted. A Polish man in front of him was refused access to the flight despite him and other passengers telling the staff that he his passport was from an EU country and that he was entitled to fly.

petra Wed 06-Jan-21 12:53:08

Nothing to see here, folks. Move along.

varian Wed 06-Jan-21 17:51:29

What do you expect? We are no longer members of the EU.

vampirequeen Wed 06-Jan-21 17:57:12

Immigrants are required to ensure that they have the correct paperwork when returning to their country of residence. Happens all over the world. The UK is no longer part of the EU so they don't have freedom of movement. They should have foreseen this issue and ensured that their paperwork was in order.

beverly10 Wed 06-Jan-21 17:57:33

Varian
Cake and eat it grin

varian Wed 06-Jan-21 18:05:11

Those who ever believed in "cake and eat it" are just about as stupid as the Trump supporters who insist he won the election that he lost,

Pantglas2 Wed 06-Jan-21 18:08:20

Perhaps they’d be better off ditching all paperwork and claiming asylum......🤔

MamaCaz Wed 06-Jan-21 18:25:14

As a variation on this theme, I will be interested to see if my Brexit-voting relation, currently in his Spanish holiday home and with no plan to return in the near future, will be penalised if he outstays the 90 days out of 180 days that are now allowed.

He believes that because the Spanish "need" the money that that people like him put into their economy, he will be ok, but time will tell.

Chewbacca Wed 06-Jan-21 18:39:58

This is nothing whatsoever to do with Brexit, no matter how desperately some would love it to be!

But the move by British Airways and Iberia staff was made in error, as Spanish and British authorities previously agreed their existing paperwork would be sufficient to allow re-entry once the EU transition period ended on December 31, 2020.

The UK's embassy for Spain wrote on Twitter: "This should not be happening, the Spanish authorities have reconfirmed again this evening that the green residency document will be valid for travel to return to Spain as stated in our travel advice."

biba70 Thu 07-Jan-21 15:46:23

what is clearly to do with Brexit, is the 90 day rule.

There are all over the EU- Brit who have been living under the radar, playing the system, tax, health insurance, car licences and insurance, pensions, benefits, etc, etc. The EU is now closing down on them- many will ahve no choice but to return with very little.

biba70 Thu 07-Jan-21 15:51:05

"L'article L621-1 du Code de l'entrée et du séjour des étrangers et du droit d'asile déclare que le fait de séjourner de manière irrégulière sur le territoire constitue un délit, passible d'un an de prison, de 3 750 € d'amende et de 3 ans d'interdiction du territoire."
Translates as "up to a year in prison, a 3,750€ fine and a 3-year ban." In this case for France.

Welshwife Thu 07-Jan-21 15:54:30

The border people are also stamping the passports of a lot of people legally resident in an EU country and with the correct papers. The stamp is used to ensure people do not overstay the 90 day rule.
The problem seems to be that the message that U.K. people resident in an EU country should not have their passport stamped has not yet filtered through to those wielding the stamps!

varian Thu 07-Jan-21 16:56:04

Interesting that the ghastly brexiter Nigel Lawson, having lived in France for many years, has apparently been refused a "carte de sejour".

Deedaa Fri 08-Jan-21 20:32:46

DD's colleague travelled with her family back to France for Christmas. It was the first time they had travelled with passports instead of just their ID cards and they were rather worried about whether they would be allowed back in the UK. In fact they had arranged for DD to collect their youngest child (Who by some beaureacratic quirk is the only one with a UK passport) if the rest of them weren't allowed back in.