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Fishing industry being destroyed

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lemongrove Thu 14-Jan-21 16:02:22

It isn’t relevant to the job geekesse.... and can be done by a minister who lives in York/Oxford/ Manchester just as well.
All a minister needs to do is to understand what their job entails.
Algerias I have no idea what your politics are ( but guessing SNP)?
Am thinking that mainly all who do get angry about this are Labour supporters or those who constantly moan at any real or imagined wrong doing by any government ‘bod’ at all.
A great deal of the fishermen live in Scotland and although they may be complaining about hiccups to do with Brexit, will get a much better deal for the coming years than under EU trade from the past.

MaizieD Thu 14-Jan-21 15:44:13

P.S. The idea that a government is there to serve the people is really silly, isn't it?

MaizieD Thu 14-Jan-21 15:42:47

^ I'm quite angry that a government minister couldn't take the time to understand something that was so vital to her brief.^

You really need to understand that none of these ministers are intended to do any work. They are puppets. There to fool the voters into thinking we have a government. It works, doesn't it, as replies on this thread demonstrate? If the ordinary voter really doesn't see that a minister's job is more important than organising a nativity thing, then the con is working beautifully...

Alegrias1 Thu 14-Jan-21 14:02:19

As you know Lemon I'm not a Labour supporter. I'm quite angry that a government minister couldn't take the time to understand something that was so vital to her brief.

So, next time you want to slag off Labour supporters, make sure you don't just mean "people who think the Tory government are a bunch of charlatans".

And if you think the deal they have got is better than the one they had, try asking a fisherman. Or a fish processor. Or a fish exporter....

geekesse Thu 14-Jan-21 14:01:36

Ms Prentiss has no personal stake in the fishing industry, and nor do the majority of her constituents, which is why where she lives, and the constituency she represents, is relevant, lemongrove.

She is is my MP. I expect her to do her job. She didn’t. She didn’t even bother to read the documentation because she had something more fun to do. In many jobs, skiving like that would be a sackable offence.

Ilovecheese Thu 14-Jan-21 13:56:20

A very angry fisherman on the radio just now. Threatening to dump his catch in Westminster because he has been unable to export it due to hold ups caused by Brexit.
I thought Brexiteers were supposed to care about the fishing industry.
Maybe if the minister had actually read the document she may have been able to mitigate some of these problems by pointing them out and finding a work around.

lemongrove Thu 14-Jan-21 13:43:32

The things that Labour supporters manage to get excited and angry about knows no bounds.

lemongrove Thu 14-Jan-21 13:42:00

What the heck does it matter where she lives?! Ridiculous
Thinking geekesse.
I think on Christmas Eve even the fishing minister has got things to do.... and in any case what was she supposed to do,
The deal had been agreed, and it’s a better deal for UK fishermen than they have had up to now.
It may not have been the perfect deal that they wanted, but it was never going to be, the main thing is that it’s a better one.

Riverwalk Thu 14-Jan-21 13:14:11

Did not the vast majority of UK fishermen vote to leave the EU - what did they expect?

geekesse Thu 14-Jan-21 12:53:30

She lives in an Oxfordshire village, more than 80 miles from the nearest sea. How did she get appointed in the first place?

MaizieD Thu 14-Jan-21 09:29:19

I'll say what I've said before. This is not an active government; it's a charade. It has all the right people in the right places but they're not actually doing anything.

It is more than likely that should, by some miracle, Ms Prentis have read the deal, even just the bit pertaining to fisheries, and raised any objections to it she would have been out on her ear.

The whole of the cabinet and all the tory MPs exist solely as a rubber stamping machine. They play no active role...

Nanna58 Thu 14-Jan-21 09:09:52

This doesn’t happen often but....words fail me!

vampirequeen Thu 14-Jan-21 09:05:20

Imagine that you are the fishing minister for the UK. It's Christmas Eve. You get sent the EU Brexit agreement. This is your one shot at making sure everything is OK for the industry you represent.

Do you:

a) Read the document...esp the parts pertaining to the fishing industry to ensure that all is in order and there is nothing that you need to raise with Cabinet or elsewhere?

b) Wander out during lockdown to set up a Nativity Trail so that lots of other people can wander about during lockdown?

Now which choice do you thing Victoria Prentis the fishing minister made?

This is what she said when questioned:

Asked if her jaw had dropped when she saw the deal with the EU on Christmas Eve, Prentis told the Lords EU environment subcommittee: “No, the agreement came when we were all very busy on Christmas Eve, in my case organising the local nativity trail.

“We had been waiting and waiting, it looked like it was coming for probably four days before it actually arrived.

“I, for one, had gone through, as I’m sure members of this committee had, a gamut of emotions over those four days.”

www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/13/fisheries-minister-admits-not-reading-brexit-bill-as-she-was-at-nativity