Is Boris's trip essential?

Judge for yourself

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No, it is not. Jacob Rees Mogg's comment on NS, repeated several times- should have been stopped by the Speaker immediately- he should have been reminded that it broke HoC rules, and told to stop and apologise.

The Speaker is truly so disappointing and totally lacksthe necessary skills to keep the HoC civil.

Alegrias1

It just gets better. From the BBC website:

The prime minister’s visit to Scotland today has been criticised in the Commons for “undermining the public health message” of Covid-19.

The SNP’s House of Commons spokesman Tommy Sheppard said that in normal times he would be delighted for Boris Johnson to visit Scotland because it resulted in a boost in support for his party.

But, he said, now was not the time for such visit and people should be maintaining social distancing protocols.

In reply, the leader of the Commons, Conservative MP Jacob Rees Mogg, dismissed the criticism.

He described Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon as “Miss Moan A Lot”.

Way to go in endearing yourself to the peasants, Jacob.

Is this acceptable ?? In Parliament ??

No, probably not essential travel but it is his job to be seen, to be personally thanking great effort, to be personally showing sympathy in troubled times.
‘Come and see for yourself Prime Minister’.

Who asked Johnson to come and see?

Being seen and personally thanking are not essential.

As for the elbow bumps, why? They're almost as bad as the 'shaking hands with everyone' Johnson was so proud of - which turned out to be a really bad idea.

Thank you, FarN. Appreciated. Somewhat confused by the public appearance of MPs when I've previously seen them in a perfect private (safer) place appearing on a show. I guess both come under the heading of work. I guess my quandary is whether their physical presence is ever necessary. Again, thanks FN.

While on the subject of unnecessary travel, why is the G 7 summit still planned in Cornwall for June when we are all being told not to plan travel abroad this Summer

GrannyGravy13 I don't recall anyone asking why Johnson was not out and about.
They were asking why he wasn't being seen at all, at the time, as he wasn't even doing any covid updates.

Sparklefizz

He's damned if he does, and he's damned if he doesn't, as someone pointed out about 5 pages back.

Nah, I think for most in Scotland he's damned because he did.

He pretended it was to cheer up the troops and make sure everything was running to plan, and then gave interviews about Scottish independence.

No excuses, he thinks we're all daft.

Scottish MPs are usually seen taking part in Parliament from their homes, Kim19.
If they do travel to London for work, that is allowed.

There was nothing essential about the 'work' Johnson did in Scotland.
Grannynannywanny tells us how counter-productive his visit was.
It was intended as a 'charm-offensive' but came across as quite repulsive instead.

Riverwalk - just started reading this thread - love "Bozzer"!! Shall probably now use it whenever i can!!

He's damned if he does, and he's damned if he doesn't, as someone pointed out about 5 pages back.

I wish I could convey the anger and disgust that was felt by the staff in the largest hospital in Scotland, which is yards away from the lab he visited, who are appalled by his behaviour . They arrived for work yesterday morning and negotiated their way around a heavy police presence on the campus to start another exhausting shift.

I heard it said if he had bumbled his way in there extending elbow bumps he may have required a visit to theatre to have his elbow removed from his rear end before setting off again to the airport.

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Fair to say that the visit hasn't been an unqualified success. In case anybody hasn't seen the Scottish press this morning....

I would have included the Daily Telegraph front page but they decided not to cover the visit. And the Daily Mail thought it was more important to highlight that our Finance Minster had got engaged.

Nicola S doesn’t tour around vaccination centres in Scotland. She has made it clear she is not making unnecessary trips.

Why doesn’t he visit troops but leave the official photographer at home? His journey not essential surely. There must be local photographers who could step in, or better still just don’t take any photos. There must be troops nearer Westminster he could visit if that was the aim of the journey.

Not so long ago posters were asking were is the PM why is he not out and about .

He has every right to visit British Troops who are manning vaccination centres, along with laboratory staff it shows that they are not forgotten and that they are very much appreciated.

I seek information here regarding unnecessary journeys, please. Other than Boris, are Scottish MPs ever making the journey to Westminster or are they all staying at their premises in London?

No, probably not essential travel but it is his job to be seen, to be personally thanking great effort, to be personally showing sympathy in troubled times.
‘Come and see for yourself Prime Minister’.

You are right, Lucca That subject deserves its own thread, not to be tacked onto a completely different conversation. I could chuck in some observations on the weather, and tell you about the cauliflower I ordered which turned out to be the size of a football and has provided six plates of cauliflower cheese and five bowls of cauli and stiliton soup, with some still gone brown and thrown out. But I won't.

Galaxy

Are we now just chucking in random statistics that have nothing to do with the thread.
51% of UK adults own a pet. Of those pets 2% are rabbits. I feel a bit sad to be in the 2%

That made me laugh very hard

Are we now just chucking in random statistics that have nothing to do with the thread.
51% of UK adults own a pet. Of those pets 2% are rabbits. I feel a bit sad to be in the 2%

Firecracker123

Scotland remains drug-death capital
In Scotland there are about 25 drug deaths a week and in Greater Glasgow someone dies from an overdose every 31 hours
PAUL FAITH/PA
Mike Wade
Wednesday December 16 2020, 12.01am, The Times

Perhaps the truth hurts

Thread title “is Boris’ trip essential?”

Why not start a new thread about how to solve the drug problem in Scotland ? (Or indeed the UK).

Just a thought.

Lassie, (laddie?) will ye never learn?

Scotland remains drug-death capital
In Scotland there are about 25 drug deaths a week and in Greater Glasgow someone dies from an overdose every 31 hours
PAUL FAITH/PA
Mike Wade
Wednesday December 16 2020, 12.01am, The Times

Perhaps the truth hurts

to the anti-independence posters.
What tired old clichés you come out with.