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maddyone Thu 11-Feb-21 16:54:18

It was announced only last week that it is now known that the Astra/Zeneca vaccine prevents at least 60% of transmition. That’s what is known now, this will probably change as more is found out.

Antonia Thu 11-Feb-21 13:50:40

One reason why you might not be going to the Cotswolds this May after you and your husband have been vaccinated is that you can still transmit the virus to other people
It isn't known at this time, whether vaccinated people can transmit the virus. I'm sure it's better to act as if we can still transmit though.

Doodledog Thu 11-Feb-21 13:25:16

I can see the wisdom in making no promises, and with making it clear that there is no guarantee that holidays will be possible by a certain date.

Much will depend on how people respond to being vaccinated, and if they don't consider those who aren't the lockdown could well continue into the summer. It was a bad move for Johnson to promise Christmas and then withdraw it (probably costing many lives), and maybe the government is finally learning from its mistakes.

Least said, soonest mended etc.

rosie1959 Thu 11-Feb-21 13:20:22

We managed uk holidays last year so why not this year?
It's fine to book that's not illegal Infact its probably sensible if you have a flexible booking because I think places are already getting full

Lillie Thu 11-Feb-21 13:04:17

If this thread is about politicians' answering questions, then yes, they are making a right old mess of it. They'd be better just saying "No comment," but then of course they would be severely criticised for not providing answers.

Esspee Thu 11-Feb-21 13:03:59

I can manage without holidays as such but my family is spread all over the world and I long to see them. I am hoping that once we receive the second vaccination travel to some areas will be permitted.

vampirequeen Thu 11-Feb-21 12:53:18

Muse...no it was the end of the interview and boy did he look relieved that it was over grin

Witzend Thu 11-Feb-21 12:45:40

Correct, @Rosie51, but I’m afraid that Blossoming infers from other peoples posts whatever fits her agenda.

I was of course referring to the joy-suckers who’d like to see everything banned for ever.

Rosie51 Thu 11-Feb-21 12:39:46

We have a UK family holiday booked for the end of the school summer holidays this year. It was booked summer last year as at that time there was no thought that we'd be in this situation, and self catering holiday lets with good facilities often book up a year ahead. Obviously if the rules say no, then we shall not go, but just the hope that we might is a tiny ray of sunshine in these bleak times. I'm not expecting or even daring to hope that we might get to see our Canadian family, so that will be three years between visits.

Rosie51 Thu 11-Feb-21 12:32:40

Blossoming I read it that Witzend was talking about ignoring those who'd make it illegal to even think about a holiday, not ignoring the rules.

Dinahmo Thu 11-Feb-21 12:14:02

Assuming that the vaccination roll out has been completed by the summer I see no reason why people can't book a holiday in the UK for late summer onwards. I don't think a foreign holiday is a good idea until the situation in overseas countries is known.

We have friends in the UK who want to visit us and we would like to visit them I can't see that happening. So, with a bit of luck we will staycation here in France. That is assuming that the curfew is lifted. No fun going anywhere if you have to be back by 6.00pm.

This will be over one day but I think we will need a jab every year, just as we have the flu jabs. A French friend asked if we'd had the hit yet. He'd been reading too many American books because he actually meant jab.

maddyone Thu 11-Feb-21 12:13:06

We’re planning on going on holiday later this year. I have no idea when or to where, but hopefully as the summer arrives and more people are vaccinated it will be possible to go somewhere.

Doodledog Thu 11-Feb-21 11:58:24

One reason why you might not be going to the Cotswolds this May after you and your husband have been vaccinated is that you can still transmit the virus to other people. Not everyone will have been vaccinated by May.

Agreed, and it is attitudes like this that will hold up holidays for everyone. Unless the scientists are convinced that people have grasped that they may still be able to pass on the virus, and are prepared to consider other people, they will extend the lockdown for longer.

Teacheranne Thu 11-Feb-21 11:54:38

Gwenisgreat1

Oh dear!! Witzend When we couldn't manage to go to Llandudno last year, we forwarded it first to October last year, then April this year and again to September this year, and really hope we will manage to go. We also had a break book for the Cotswolds,, May last year, which we forwarded to May this year and really hope to be able to go there (we should both be doubly vaccinated so I can't see the problem). Obviously we'll have to see what Boris comes up with!!

One reason why you might not be going to the Cotswolds this May after you and your husband have been vaccinated is that you can still transmit the virus to other people. Not everyone will have been vaccinated by May.

Gwenisgreat1 Thu 11-Feb-21 11:31:16

Oh dear!! Witzend When we couldn't manage to go to Llandudno last year, we forwarded it first to October last year, then April this year and again to September this year, and really hope we will manage to go. We also had a break book for the Cotswolds,, May last year, which we forwarded to May this year and really hope to be able to go there (we should both be doubly vaccinated so I can't see the problem). Obviously we'll have to see what Boris comes up with!!

muse Thu 11-Feb-21 11:27:32

Vampirequeen I didn't see this but was he asked how both could be correct.

Blossoming Thu 11-Feb-21 11:15:05

No doubt there are obsessive rule-stickers who’d like to make it illegal even to think about a holiday anywhere, but most of us are cheerfully able to ignore them.

Why we have such high Covid rates in a nutshell.

vampirequeen Thu 11-Feb-21 11:10:26

I don't think it's the whether to book or not to book that is funny. It's the way Hancock said that the advice to not book is the same as the advice to book even though they're the exact opposite. Hence opposites are now equal grin

Witzend Thu 11-Feb-21 11:06:00

TBH I can’t see anything wrong with booking U.K. holidays - as long as you’re assured of a refund if the rules - when the time comes - mean that you can’t go.

Not that we’ve booked anything yet, but it surely has to be good for people to have something to look forward to. Especially when there’s so much talk of people’s mental health suffering.

No doubt there are obsessive rule-stickers who’d like to make it illegal even to think about a holiday anywhere, but most of us are cheerfully able to ignore them.

vampirequeen Thu 11-Feb-21 11:03:56

Because you're British and we laugh at the absurd. Hancock couldn't have been more absurd this morning if he'd tried. {grin]

timetogo2016 Thu 11-Feb-21 10:59:07

A typical MP`s answer.
And why on earth did i find it funny ?.

vampirequeen Thu 11-Feb-21 10:53:12

Hancock was brilliant on the BBC today...in a not saying anything way. Yesterday some other minister said we should be booking holidays abroad or in the UK yet because we don't know what's going to happen. Hancock has already booked his holiday in Cornwall. To be fair to the man he booked it months ago like we booked Norfolk when it seemed that we were on track to return to normality in 2021. Anyway the reporter asked him which was the correct advice. Should we book holidays like he had or not book holidays like the other guy said. His cracker of a reply was that both answers were correct

Therefore in this country it is possible for two opposite statements to mean the same thing. Presumably black paint can now also be called white paint, light can be dark, sweet can be sour....the possibilities are endless. And we thought that English was already a difficult language to learn grin