Can someone explain the Alex Salmond 'thing's from the beginning please?

Alegrias You know he’s right and Sturgeon is covering up. Maybe that’s why you’ve come over all giggly and girly? Hmm...?

Esspee

I have asked around and nobody I know seems to care. General consensus is that Salmond was probably, like many men of his generation, out of line (far too many women attest to that) but that the accusations against him were politically motivated.
Because of the upcoming election the whole thing is being blown out of proportion by the opposition parties and the Tories in Westminster, and most people don’t care when Nicola knew. He has been found not guilty.
Everyone just wants the Scottish government to concentrate on running the country under Nicola Sturgeon who is the best leader the U.K. has at the present time.

So you don’t care that Nicola may have been misleading parliament and breaking the ministerial code by not telling the truth? She should have had every meeting with Salmond logged which it seems she did not do . She has now got the Crown to redact the fact that the first two meetings with Salmond existed which means he cannot speak about them at the enquiry . You can’t blame Westminster for this one !

tickingbird

Andrew Neil has written a good piece on this today. I read it on The Mail Online.

I know this is the wrong thing to do but really, this is the funniest post I've seen for a long time.

Andrew Neil wrote a good piece (about Scotland!) in the Mail Online.

Its just all so unlikely! OK, on you go, tell me off.. its worth it!

I have asked around and nobody I know seems to care. General consensus is that Salmond was probably, like many men of his generation, out of line (far too many women attest to that) but that the accusations against him were politically motivated.
Because of the upcoming election the whole thing is being blown out of proportion by the opposition parties and the Tories in Westminster, and most people don’t care when Nicola knew. He has been found not guilty.
Everyone just wants the Scottish government to concentrate on running the country under Nicola Sturgeon who is the best leader the U.K. has at the present time.

Andrew Neil has written a good piece on this today. I read it on The Mail Online.

One would think that the meeting she had with Geoff Aberdain on the 29th, March would have been in her diary.

Selective memory?

It's hard to believe that things have come to such a pass.

I think the problem now is the role of the Crown Officer who decided to redact Salmond's statement who is also a member of the Scottish government appointed by Nicola Sturgeon
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-56188765

God knows

Alex is meant to be speaking to the committee on Friday. Then Nicola on Wednesday. After that, literally, who knows.

Thank you all - I think.

What will happen now?

Nightsky2

Nightsky2

Mr Salmond and his supporters claim Nichola Sturgeon has misled parliament over the government inquiry into the allegations of sexual harassment. Sturgeon denies the claim.

The Scottish government eventually admitted it had botched its investigation and had to pay Salmond’s legal fees of more than £500.000 after it had acted unlawfully.?

If found guilty of lying to the courts she would have to resign.

After the governments defence collapse Ms Sturgeon told her MSPs she had 3 meetings with Mr Salmond while he was under investigation by her officials, Apr, June, July 2018. Mr Salmond’s former chief of staff Geoff Aberdain told the jury he raised the subject with Ms Sturgeon in her Hollywood office on the 29th, March 2018. She claims to have forgotten this meeting despite the explosive subject matter. Make of that what you like.

Nightsky2 I'm making no comment at all about who did what or who said what. What I'm saying is that there is a assertion that the First Minister misled Parliament, not that she lied in Court.

With reference to Paddy-Anne’s post

Nicola Sturgeon made the final decision to appoint Leslie Evans following consultation with the Head of Civil Service and is answerable to Scottish ministers
Sorry I can’t do links ... Freedom of information request on Scot Gov Website 25 th August 2017 .
Quote from Leslie Evans on 4th Oct 2017 in speech to Year 12 in her old school of High Storrs
I am the new Permanent Secretary to the Scottish Government. Devolution means I work for the Scottish Government and not for the U.K Gov. So I don’t work for Theresa Mays Government, I work directly for Nicola Sturgeon.
Lots of misinformation going around about who she is responsible to .

Replying to Alegris1.

Nightsky2

Mr Salmond and his supporters claim Nichola Sturgeon has misled parliament over the government inquiry into the allegations of sexual harassment. Sturgeon denies the claim.

The Scottish government eventually admitted it had botched its investigation and had to pay Salmond’s legal fees of more than £500.000 after it had acted unlawfully.?

If found guilty of lying to the courts she would have to resign.

After the governments defence collapse Ms Sturgeon told her MSPs she had 3 meetings with Mr Salmond while he was under investigation by her officials, Apr, June, July 2018. Mr Salmond’s former chief of staff Geoff Aberdain told the jury he raised the subject with Ms Sturgeon in her Hollywood office on the 29th, March 2018. She claims to have forgotten this meeting despite the explosive subject matter. Make of that what you like.

I suppose if Sturgeon wins, Salmond’s career is over. If Salmond wins both careers are over.
Such a mess which will cause so much disruption if the latter is the case.
Something is not right, we’ll know soon enough.

There's no suggestion anyone lied to any courts. There is an assertion the the First Minister misled parliament over the nature of a meeting.
And the woman's name is Nicola.

Mr Salmond and his supporters claim Nichola Sturgeon has misled parliament over the government inquiry into the allegations of sexual harassment. Sturgeon denies the claim.

The Scottish government eventually admitted it had botched its investigation and had to pay Salmond’s legal fees of more than £500.000 after it had acted unlawfully.?

If found guilty of lying to the courts she would have to resign.

The only snag is that the first meeting wasnt an informal one. The witnesses to that are the ones being redacted out. None of it adds up. Just publish everything then this could all be sorted out. Why not publish? What's the problem? Scottish govt have made things ten times worse by these obfuscations.
They got it wrong going after Salmond. Their process was found to be 'tainted by bias' and they had to cough up £500,000 plus expenses of taxpayers money. The cases went to court and the jury found him innocent apart from from one not proven case. He didn't emerge smelling of roses.
The committee is trying to find out where the initial process went wrong. As a part of this there is an accusation that NS broke the ministerial code.
It's a mess. Why can't everything be published (apart from the names of the women that were found to charge him of course).
No secrecy no problem but it's too late now.

Two small fish in an even smaller pond.
All I know is I would not get into a lift on my own with Alex Salmond.

.... * tiptoes out *

"What is the ACTUAL story about? Well, Nicola Sturgeon met Alex Salmond at her home, in early April 2018 when he told her that he was being accused of harassment. His adviser said that he had mentioned it to Ms Sturgeon four days earlier in an informal setting and it lasted only a few minutes. She hadn't recalled the informal meeting until she was reminded of it but she did, then, remember the meeting with his adviser. The head-of-a-pin argument is 'Was it a government meeting or an SNP meeting?' If the former, then she should have taken minutes. If the latter, then no notes needed to be taken. No notes were taken. Ask yourself, if a long- time colleague and friend turned up at your house to let you know that he/she has been accused of harassment of other colleagues, would you immediately assume it was a personal conversation or a business one? Yes, THAT is what the issue relates to. World shattering it is not but it is all the media has got"

I’m glad I’ve read this thread as I thought that I hadn’t been paying attention, as I am as clueless as the rest of you.

Dirty dealings though I suspect.

Well. Although you may find this unlikely, I'm speechless.