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Monday - will you watch....and why?

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Pantglas2 Sat 06-Mar-21 21:00:12

Obviously, the Oprah interview with the Sussexes.

I will because I want to hear it straight from the source rather than media spin/interpretation so that I can comment later on what I saw and heard, when discussions start up as they surely will.

However, I don’t think they should be doing an interview at all (I felt the same about Diana and Charles interviews) these things end up backfiring against them.

M0nica Tue 09-Mar-21 08:38:37

I admit i didn't watch the interview last night, but picking up a few points mentioned here. I am sure Prince Harry talked about his mental health problems before he met Meghan and I am not aware that that caused any problems. In fact his openess and honesty was praised by all.

In which case I find it difficult to believe that he should be embarrassed about seeking help for his fiancee. In fact I see that failure as an act of downright cowardice. The woman he loved struggling for her mental health and he doesn't seek help for her because he was embarrassed!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And after all his mother's troubles and difficulties?

I get the impression of a couple looking for insult and injury under every bush, scanning every paper in case there is an odd comment at the bottom of the back, but one page that they could construe as an insult to them.

They strike me as a couple with too much time and too little to do who just sit around rehearsing their grievances with one another and constantly adding yet another chip to each others shoulders. I hope they grow up before their children do.

Jaffacake2 Tue 09-Mar-21 08:36:36

There was a lot of negative stories in the press from day one of Meghan being official girlfriend to Harry. Most of it had racial undertones with comments such as " tainting the royal blood line " " inviting Harry to tea in the ghetto area Compton of LA. " And the awful cartoon from Danny Baker on the day of the birth announcement of Archie with a picture of a chimp.
Why was there never a royal announcement against racism to Meghan ? That was such a missed opportunity to show that the principles of equality and diversity within the Commonwealth were being upheld. It was very abusive to Meghan and seemed constant.
Not surprising that they moved away and feel aggrieved that there was no support from the family.
And why has Prince Andrew not be vilified by the press for his association with a paedophile ? Meghan has been attacked more for supposedly bullying her staff than Andrew has for his behaviour and pompous attitude in his interview.

NellG Tue 09-Mar-21 08:35:53

Luckygirl no, I would have kept my dignity and focused on maintaining my mental health and that of my immediate family and protected the privacy I publicly stated I wanted.

Sarnia Tue 09-Mar-21 08:33:53

Many posts on here wondering what Meghan sees in Harry. A B-list, resting actress meets an eligible Prince! She saw a golden opportunity to propel herself into the media spotlight. She has certainly done that with bells on. I wonder if she is as besotted as Harry clearly is? Time will tell. Whether the things they said were honest, who knows? Oprah's questions were very one-sided. Why not ask her about her father and why only 1 person from her family was at her wedding? Meghan's announcement that they were married 3 days before the public event is untrue. According to the BBC, Harry & Meghan had an informal exchange of vows which is not a valid wedding ceremony. I think they have made the right decision to go to the US. The Queen now needs to strip them of any remaining perks of being a Royal because they clearly have no intention of that and I hope she also removes Harry and his children from the line of accession to the throne.

Luckygirl Tue 09-Mar-21 08:32:53

Meghan married into a dysfunctional family. When Harry saw that it was making her ill (as it did his mother) he got her out of it. Good for him.

Meghan was lambasted unremittingly by the gutter press; she took an opportunity to present her side - would we not all have done the same?

NellG Tue 09-Mar-21 08:30:49

Anniebach They gave it back to her as they were only holding it because they had to arrange her travel whilst she was a working royal. The implication that they had it for any other reason is childish on her part. It's a myth that they don't need passports - the Queen doesn't because she can't issue one to herself, but the rest do.

NellG Tue 09-Mar-21 08:26:40

Thanks for the insults Nezumi and Maizie. I would have thanked you earlier but I was too busy having my opinions dictated by the press...

Alegrias1 Tue 09-Mar-21 08:26:28

MaizieD

^If you’ve decided in advance you aren’t going to believe a single word they say you may as well just immerse yourself in the 25 pages of Mail diatribe today^

They will, Nezumi. They certainly will. ?

Apparently Piers Morgan has just walked off set after Alex Beresford gave him a hard time for how he has treated Meghan.

The Daily Mail says Morgan is "upset".

Well boo hoo.

Anniebach Tue 09-Mar-21 08:22:49

How did she get to Canada without a passport

Katie59 Tue 09-Mar-21 08:21:59

If it was Harry who spilled the beans, that was likely to affect family politics in a major way and it seems it did, family rifts are caused by much smaller comments. It probably changed Meghans attitude to the whole RF if it’s true.

Grannynannywanny Tue 09-Mar-21 08:21:09

I felt from what they both said that Meghan was let down first and foremost by Harry. I found it shocking that he sat there and admitted that he felt too embarrassed to seek help for his wife who had told him she felt suicidal. Instead they both blamed the institution. Oprah’s interview skills were lacking at that point and she just let it pass.

NellG Tue 09-Mar-21 08:20:53

I noticed that H said that he didn't realise he was trapped, so he didn't feel that he was before he met M. So, his truth became a new truth that became their truth...so what's the truth?

MaizieD Tue 09-Mar-21 08:20:18

If you’ve decided in advance you aren’t going to believe a single word they say you may as well just immerse yourself in the 25 pages of Mail diatribe today

They will, Nezumi. They certainly will. ?

Calendargirl Tue 09-Mar-21 08:19:59

Meghan admitted she had no concept of what the role of a working royal was, she had done ‘no research’ into the Royal Family. Perhaps Harry should have made things much clearer to her. I think he was besotted, and terrified if she were more aware, she would go the same way as Chelsey Davey and Cressida Bonas.

Security. Oprah should have brought up the fact that Royal Security is provided by the Metropolitan police, funded by the tax payer, who would not have been happy paying for a non working couple living abroad.

Titles. It seemed a big issue that Archie was not going to be a Prince, which is all to do with being in the direct line of succession. It was implied that was because of his mixed race heritage, which was nonsense. When Charles becomes King, he would be entitled to that title, but not now as they have left the Firm.

Meghan said she had no one to turn to with her suicidal thoughts. That surely should have been when Harry stepped in and sought expert help, he didn’t have to get permission to do that for his wife.

Popularity. This I felt had some truth in it. I think that compared to the Sussex’s, the Cambridges were in danger of coming across as rather staid and a bit fuddy duddy, and I can imagine this rankled with Catherine somewhat, and efforts were made to establish them as the ‘main’ couple.

No attempt was made to establish why only one member of Meghan’s family was invited to the wedding, or why Harry has never met her father.

Colour. Harry said the subject of ‘their kids colour’ was brought up, to me this sounded something mentioned very early in the relationship, not when they were expecting Archie. Not saying this makes it right, but don’t think it was targeted at him.

They said the Netflix and Spotify deals were made to pay for their security. This hadn’t been part of the plans to leave. So what exactly were they planning to live on?

Nezumi65 Tue 09-Mar-21 08:15:49

Meghan said that Archie being a prince when Charles becomes king had been refused. She wasn’t talking about now.

Didn’t look organised and staged to me. If you’ve decided in advance you aren’t going to believe a single word they say you may as well just immerse yourself in the 25 pages of Mail diatribe today

Anniebach Tue 09-Mar-21 08:13:05

Harry claims his father and brother are trapped, he is going to
educate them.

The only family members they named were Charles, William and Kate

EllanVannin Tue 09-Mar-21 08:12:23

Organised and staged, as was the couples decision to leave the country. Why couldn't they have just come clean about their intentions in the first place ?

Galaxy Tue 09-Mar-21 08:06:28

I would leave someone who had kept that information from me. You cant expect people to react in the way you do.

Curlywhirly Tue 09-Mar-21 08:04:37

eazybee

Apparently Meghan did not hear the discussion about skin toned herself. I am wondering who so thoughtfully reported it back to her.

My thoughts too. If a member of my family made a negative comment regarding my partner (racial or not) I wouldn't be relaying that to them - what good would that do?

Katie59 Tue 09-Mar-21 08:01:30

eazybee

Apparently Meghan did not hear the discussion about skin toned herself. I am wondering who so thoughtfully reported it back to her.

The implication was that Harry who shared the information.
Which is not clever at all, he just has no clue, there are some things your wife does not need to be told - it’s called discretion ,

Galaxy Tue 09-Mar-21 08:01:05

Dh would definitely tell me something like that, it depends on your relationship. He would know I would want to know about it.

Washerwoman Tue 09-Mar-21 07:58:18

My immediate thoughts on her asking for help when she was struggling was why on earth first Harry use all his contacts to get some private counselling?.With his Heads Up campaign where he publicly stated he had had therapy surely that was his responsibility. I simply don't believe that wouldn't have been possible. Especially as Megan was pregnant and that in itself gave them a perfect excuse to step away from official engagements for a while.
I'm not saying I don't believe she was struggling at the timem.However experience with a DD during pregnancy and the months afterwards have made me realise how someone's 'truth' can vary wildly from the rest of the family.

V3ra Tue 09-Mar-21 07:58:04

eazybee Meghan said in the interview that Harry had told her. I thought that was odd. Why say something he knew would upset her?

eazybee Tue 09-Mar-21 07:46:12

Apparently Meghan did not hear the discussion about skin toned herself. I am wondering who so thoughtfully reported it back to her.

BigBertha1 Tue 09-Mar-21 07:45:46

10 minutes of it was enough for me. Yawn