Monday - will you watch....and why?

If M & H feel that they were unsupported and also that M feels she was subjected to racism whether it was conscious or unconscious racism, I think that it is very wrong for others to dismiss those feelings.

No person has the ability to feel what another is feeling we can only empathise.

(I haven’t watched the interview, only seen clips on the news)

Maizie don't get too lonely up there on the moral high ground.

No but it was the first one I found from several year ago. But it was well known in the town that the detectives had a flat where they stayed and they could be seen accompanying her. So it's actually been witnessed

Eugenie's decision to study at the Tyneside university will prove to be equally costly because, like her sister, she is guarded round the clock by a team of Metropolitan Police bodyguards costing more than £250,000 a year.

Met coppers stand out in Geordie land

JaneJudge They mean in the form of minders - usually serving police officers paid for by us.

They didn't want to pay for that privately, and H complained at having to use his inheritance to fund it.

I may be wrong, but I thought the whole issue of security came up a while ago, with the huge cost implications, it had to be scaled down.
As I remember, but maybe incorrectly, Beatrice and Eugenie lost their entitlement to it then. Andrew was livid and kicked off, but he ended up having to pay for it himself.
I also thought Edward and Sophie then only qualified when on official duties. They weren’t happy, but that was how it was.
Haven’t googled this, so might not be right though!

Jane
It’s both.

Surely you don’t either read or believe anything in the Mail trisher.

So do they mean security on property or security in the form of minders?

trisher
I believe that if the York girls had security it’s because Andrew was told some years ago that he had to pay for it himself if he wanted it, as part of the paring down of members of the RF who were/are funded by the state. This was widely reported at the time.

This is how much Eugenie cost the taxpayer when she decided to be an ordinary student www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1205876/96-week-student-digs-Eugenie-guards.html
Flat conversion and Met officers expenses!

In the sense that they have detectives who watch and accompany them on all their outings. So Eugenie and Beatrice being princesses have had a detective all their lives. When one of them was at Uni up here it was a common sight to see the detective on duty accompanying her to student bars and clubs. Apparently Archie wasn't going to get a title so wouldn't get the security but Andrew's daughters did.

JaneJudge
I believe that senior members of the RF have security round the clock. Some members of the RF have security only when they are engaged in royal duties on behalf of the crown. Other members of the RF have no security at all. I believe the York girls fall into this category.

Eloethan

In my opinion, expressing concern as to what the colour of a child's skin might be - whenever that comment is made - is deeply offensive and suggests an unpleasant attitude towards race.

There’s no arguing with what you say, Eloethan. The only thing I would say is that my daughter has red hair and her partner has very curly hair. When she was pregnant with their first child, there was much jokey chat within the family (with them) about whether the baby would have red hair, curly hair or curly red hair. Was that racist?

Context?

Eloethan

In my opinion, expressing concern as to what the colour of a child's skin might be - whenever that comment is made - is deeply offensive and suggests an unpleasant attitude towards race.

yes it does and surely even people with privilege realise that.

If it's true Eloethan but is it? IMO "it's deeply offensive and suggests an unpleasant attitude toward" the RF to put such a powerful and disturbing allegation 'out there', which is pointing the finger of suspicion at the entire RF apart from the Queen and PP.

Smileless
.....H and M.......not capable of ‘absolute discretion.’

How very true. I wouldn’t be surprised if the royal family ever discuss anything more interesting than the weather with either of them again.

How much security do they need or mean?

I'm really confused about what 'security' means. Do all the royal family have 'security' in what sense do they have it?

I think you could be right Buffybee.
And of course, an act of spiteful revenge.
Two birds with one stone.

That's a good point Eloethan and if the RF have learned anything from this circus it will be not to discuss personal issues with H & M as they're not capable of "absolute discretion".

There would have been difficulties to overcome but that's a far cry from denying M the help she says she needed, and if this is true, the one member of the RF who let her down the most was H.

The RF get treatment all the time and discretion is maintained. Prince Philip is in hospital now, Harry said he’s had therapy, it’s not a big deal. They don’t normally wander into their local A+E (although Charles did in Nottingham when he broke his arm some years ago, and Sophie gave birth to Louise prematurely and therefore in the local NHS hospital as she wasn’t near home) but nonetheless there would have been no problem in getting treatment and therapy for Meghan if she needed it.

In my opinion, expressing concern as to what the colour of a child's skin might be - whenever that comment is made - is deeply offensive and suggests an unpleasant attitude towards race.

In my opinion, the main reason for this interview was to raise their profile in America.
Apparently, not many Americans actually knew who they were.
Netflix and Spotify need them to be household names, so it was all about the money.

I would imagine getting counselling for someone within the royal family would be something that required a lot of security checking and perhaps authorisation by palace staff/officials. I don't think it would just be a matter of getting a recommendation and going ahead. Very personal issues would be discussed and absolute discretion would be essential.

Do the men wear similar suits I wonder ?
Can’t see them getting upset even if they did , I am sorry to say it’s a ‘female thing’ ladies.

Casdon

Lucca do you think so? I am therefore obviously shallow, as I’m more interested in their outfits than the ins and outs of their current family dramas. It will all blow over.

You have a point ! I just meant I didn’t understand the point being made !

In the interview of which I watched a few minutes while channel hopping I liked her dress and didn’t like his suit. Does that mean something ?!