Welsh Elections

I don’t think it’s just long memories Poppyred, people trust Mark Drakeford because he tells the truth even when it’s bad- the increased majority and vote share demonstrates that.

Very long memories and there is the England / Wales history

My family came from the Welsh mining valleys so I understand why the Labour movement was important then.....but times have changed but I suppose people have very long memories........

Callistemon captive at the dinner table, after Chapel, even when on the swings on lampposts there would be a group standing on the pavements .

We had an election in school in the juniors, I helped write the
ballot papers - two names , Labour - Churchill ?

Grew up hearing miners talking, talking, talking politics
As did my father, we were captive at the dinner table ?.
I also knew Welsh miners (part of the wider family) who had relocated to work in the Midlands

Callistemon not at all, I am not a newcomer to Wales, never left except for walking holidays in Yorkshire and Scotland ?,

Grew up hearing miners talking, talking, talking politics ?

Poppyred

Isn’t it sad the poorest areas in Wales still vote Labour in time and time again..... with NOTHING ever getting any better.

A poster is asking about this on another thread Anniebach (am I allowed to mention that?).

You might be better placed than me to answer as I'm an incomer (only 30+ years).

I think one has to live or have lived in the South Wales valleys to understand why

Isn’t it sad the poorest areas in Wales still vote Labour in time and time again..... with NOTHING ever getting any better.

Casdon I too feel sad , Kirsty was a good MS and I like her very much . No Libs in Wales

I don’t think the Andrew RT seat has been declared yet, or if it has I missed it too.

I know Peter Fox Callistemon, and he’s highly thought of too, he’s been around for years in the Council

Yes, I think he is but I'm not sure that voters find Andrew R T Davies appealing, he comes over as an automaton.
I've been busy until now and can't look at the results now either, presumably he got in regardless.

I feel quite sad about it Anniebach, the last Lib Dem seat in Wales, and Kirsty Williams was an excellent constituency MS to be fair to her.

Brecon and Radnor Tory as expected

Monmouth tory

Labour I would think. I was very confused about the police commissioners, though as I knew none. It was a bit shut eyes and stab. With my own pencil of course .

It is Casdon the Brexit votes have returned to Labour,

I don’t think there was ever a doubt Merthyr wouldn’t be Labour, but the Tory share of the vote overall in Wales isn’t showing the same trend as England, and I thought the Brexit Party votes would go to the Tories in Wales too, which doesn’t seem to be the case? It’s going well for Labour here, against the trend.

Casdon it is going as expected, if Merthyr had gone tory Starmer could race off to the job centre. Yes Brecon and Radnor will go tory now .

Labour for Clwyd south . Think interest now lays in Monmouth

I know Peter Fox Callistemon, and he’s highly thought of too, he’s been around for years in the Council - but I do see what you mean, the vote could be split, which would make Monmouthshire very interesting, as it’s the most Tory area in South Wales. I’ve seen that there’s a high turnout there too.

I’m glued to the TV this afternoon, the Merthyr result was interesting, Labour had an increased majority with votes gained from those who voted for Brexit last time, which bucked the national trend. I think the Tory gain in votes will be considerably less here than in England.

Unfortunately AnnieBach I do think the Tories will take Brecon and Radnor - so much of the vote for the Lib Dems here was about Kirsty herself, and as you know Labour have not got a cat in hell’s chance here.

Conservatives taken Clywd ?, only by few 100 votes

Merthyr Labour hold - there’s a surprise ?

I meant Brecon and Radnor certaintly isn’t going Plaid.

Yes Monmouth?

Monmouthshire will be interesting - the popular Tory was deselected and stood as an Independent.

Anniebach

Will there be a coalition , if so who ?

Labour and Plaid coalition.

The number of parties for the regional vote, at 13, was just ludicrous and some must have overlapped in their aims, so that could well impact on the votes for the main parties resulting in no majority.