Anyone understand why Johnson is so far ahead in the polls? ( 2)

Labour has won the mayoral elections in 15 out of 18 towns and cities. Landslide victories in Salford , Liverpool and Greater Manchester. It’s a myth that Johnson has universal popularity. Yes, popular in Brexitty backwaters and the traditional Tory shires , but not in many parts of the U.K. Wish the right wing press would acknowledge that divisions have not gone away - There is not unconditional adoration of Johnson

It is interesting isn't it. Worthing to Labour, Sevenoaks to LibDem, Tunbridge Wells to NOC.

Mamie

Chipping Norton has gone to Labour. ?

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Chipping Norton has gone to Labour. ?

It isn’t a case of either or. I can’t do a link to the cheese picture but every single thing adds up to greater protection from the virus. No one thing will eliminate it completely but lots of little things will. It’s no great imposition to wear a mask (although some people think it is) and it probably does help. How many people would be happy for surgeons to not wear masks if they have an operation? I just think people are constantly looking for excuses to not wear a mask. If there’s even a slight chance that it might protect me and people around me then I shall continue to wear one for the foreseeable future.

Japan has rising cases even though they wear masks and have called a state of emergency in some areas, however, they are extremely slow on their vaccine rollout.

Masks lying in the street: people not socially distancing themselves from others. People desperate to find a reason not to wear masks even though mask wearing in other countries has helped control the virus.....

MayBee70 I am not sure whereabouts in the UK you are but round here Covid has brought out the best in folks.

Neighbours are helping each other, the support for local independent businesses is immense. There has been a real sense of community, camaraderie and togetherness.

Whitewavemark2

I notice that in USA they wear two masks.

I shall continue to wear a mask in enclosed crowded spaces, although I shall avoid those as much as possible.

We are all aware that in the east where the control of covid has been far better than in this country, mask wearing is common and whilst it is not the only thing that will protect us it is certainly a factor.

And in eastern countries people wear masks out of respect for others so that they do not pass on germs and viruses to them. It’s a culture thing and one that we should learn from. There’s a sad I’m alright Jack culture in this country that disappoints me and covid has really shown how selfish many people are.

GrannyGravy13

The WHO were against mask wearing at the beginning of the panic.

They can (and do) give people a false sense of security, so many are worn incorrect, not changed frequently.

Is this the WHO that didn’t stop flights coming out of China last year. And said the virus wasn’t airborne?

Whitewavemark2

I notice that in USA they wear two masks.

I shall continue to wear a mask in enclosed crowded spaces, although I shall avoid those as much as possible.

We are all aware that in the east where the control of covid has been far better than in this country, mask wearing is common and whilst it is not the only thing that will protect us it is certainly a factor.

29 States have masks mandates 26 have not according to USnews website.

In the USA they wear two masks. Apart from those who still refuse to wear even one, sadly including some I know.
I too will be wearing a mask in enclosed or crowded spaces for quite a while.

I notice that in USA they wear two masks.

I shall continue to wear a mask in enclosed crowded spaces, although I shall avoid those as much as possible.

We are all aware that in the east where the control of covid has been far better than in this country, mask wearing is common and whilst it is not the only thing that will protect us it is certainly a factor.

MayBee, it became quite obvious even on GN that in the UK and other places, many people do not ‘do’ mandatory. They see it as an infringement of their human rights and drag up conspiracy theories and other reasons why they should not cooperate. e.g. they don’t like the political party in power, his hair is a mess, and I even heard, “It’s not fair” given as a reason.

Strangely enough, I’m not defending BJ.
I thought some things could have been done a different way at the time, and that’s without the ‘what I would have done’ benefit of hindsight.

I agree with you that it should have been mandatory, but how to make it mandatory?
In the UK, if people don’t like something they’ve been told to do, they don’t just refuse to do it, they hold peaceful meetings called riots to protest. They injure the police who are there to impose the rule. They side with the mother, fined for breaking a rule and demand a let off and an apology.
I watched NZ. Their lockdown was better than ours, smaller country, fewer opportunities for cross contamination, but again depended on the cooperation of the population.
I was impressed by the information in this link
coronavirusexplained.ukri.org/en/article/pub0003/
Yes, the governments there acted-not soon enough to stop the virus getting out in the first place, but the population presumably obeyed.
Here, obedience is not the norm for many.
Even on GN posters talked about what they see as the ‘*right*’ thing to do.
So how does this, or any UK government make it mandatory?
Arm the police? What do you think would happen?
Make fines compulsory and ignore the cries of ‘I can’t afford it?’
I’d really like to know what you think could be done to make mandatory happen. It would be useful to know not just now, but for future governments.

The WHO were against mask wearing at the beginning of the panic.

They can (and do) give people a false sense of security, so many are worn incorrect, not changed frequently.

I think the jury is out (amongst scientists) about mask wearing. I’m hoping no more masks after the summer!

Mollygo

Calendargirl

Perhaps some of the reasons for our high Covid death rate are our ageing population, our obesity figures, and our many health issues which are all contributory factors.

Can’t all be blamed on Boris.

And our refusal to wear masks, our desperate urge to crowd together, our reluctance to isolate. . .
Of course you can’t blame it all on Boris, but it makes some folk feel good to do so.

Then someone should make it mandatory. Hmm, who could that be? And who could have made mask wearing mandatory last spring. Who could have looked at how eastern countries were controlling the virus ?

suziewoozie

Useful article on this
www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n799

Thank you.

growstuff

I never knew quintuple meant 5. Fancy that!

Glad to have been of help. I can send you the Google link if you need reassurance.

I never knew quintuple meant 5. Fancy that!

Oh and Growstuff, I made an error. It was double figures of thousands per annum we lost, i.e. quintuple figures. (Quintuple means 5)
If it didn’t affect you, lucky you.
Dismissing something as impossible because it hasn’t happened to you is like saying no one else can have toothache because you never have.
But if it keeps you busy, do continue your ‘it can’t be true’ posts.

Useful article on this
www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n799

Calendargirl

Perhaps some of the reasons for our high Covid death rate are our ageing population, our obesity figures, and our many health issues which are all contributory factors.

Can’t all be blamed on Boris.

The real test of a high death rate from COVID is the excess death figures as this compares the previous 5 year average . The ONS produce these figures and they match up ( and last time I looked ) exceeded the numbers of Covid deaths.

Calendargirl

Perhaps some of the reasons for our high Covid death rate are our ageing population, our obesity figures, and our many health issues which are all contributory factors.

Can’t all be blamed on Boris.

And our refusal to wear masks, our desperate urge to crowd together, our reluctance to isolate. . .
Of course you can’t blame it all on Boris, but it makes some folk feel good to do so.

Perhaps some of the reasons for our high Covid death rate are our ageing population, our obesity figures, and our many health issues which are all contributory factors.

Can’t all be blamed on Boris.