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Anyone understand why Johnson is so far ahead in the polls? ( 2)

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M0nica Sat 08-May-21 15:38:06

Continuation

MayBee70 Wed 12-May-21 10:42:42

And are they planning to build on flood plains as I thought ?

varian Wed 12-May-21 10:40:34

To return to the OP. Why is Johnson polling well?- Money talks.

The Conservatives have received more than £11 million from some of the UK’s richest property developers and construction businesses since Boris Johnson became prime minister last July, an openDemocracy investigation has found.

www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/exclusive-property-tycoons-gave-tories-more-than-11m-in-less-than-a-year/

Alegrias1 Wed 12-May-21 09:30:03

Thanks, but we'll respectfully decline. grin

He and his party stood in the election just past, they got 0.9% of the vote. It was certainly lively, if you can track down his Party literature, its worth a look. If only to see the famous fedora and see the rather scary words I am from somewhere in your past shock

Miaow. ?

Greeneyedgirl Wed 12-May-21 09:17:57

Perhaps Scotland would like Mr Galloway back Alegrias to enliven things up there grin

Kali2 Tue 11-May-21 22:44:21

Urmstongran

GALLOWAY??

In the words of John McEnroe ‘you have got to be kidding me’.

?

he never said that!

You cannot be serious !

M0nica Tue 11-May-21 22:08:18

^Keir Starmer in suit and tie.
Angela Raynor in leopard print leggings and DM’s in Hartlepool.^

One posh. One not.

How does what they are wearing make them posh or not?

Which is which? What you wear, ceased defining what you are decades ago. All kinds of people wear all kinds of clothes in all kinds of different situations. Think of all those little boys wearing suits and ties at weddings and family celebrations, poor children!

Urmstongran Tue 11-May-21 20:52:52

GALLOWAY??

In the words of John McEnroe ‘you have got to be kidding me’.

?

Alegrias1 Tue 11-May-21 20:43:39

Never mind. Galloway is threatening to stand. confused

At least that will be entertaining.

Urmstongran Tue 11-May-21 20:26:04

Seems Conservatives are already firm favourites for Batley and Spen with the bookies.

Labour is a sinking ship.

Urmstongran Tue 11-May-21 20:19:24

The conservative party was seriously split on Europe and it cost it dear for many years. The Labour party is hopelessly split on just about everything.

Callistemon Tue 11-May-21 20:17:01

Those poor children.

I have seen videos of them behaving normally, doing those daft dances that are popular with children (don't ask me what they are but the DGD are always doing them).

One looks like a clone of Daddy, one looks bored stiff but the girl and younger boy look quite sweet.

It would be great if they rebelled.

Urmstongran Tue 11-May-21 18:53:13

Greeneyedgirl ??

Greeneyedgirl Tue 11-May-21 09:34:45

I can’t get the picture out of my head Urmston of Johnson and Rees Mogg in leopard skin leggings now ?.
I agree about a divided Labour Kali2, which is why I have left the party, and I suspect many more have also. Their membership has declined markedly, but I don’t see the split quite as you do.

Kali2 Mon 10-May-21 23:21:28

Please, call Social Services

Casdon Mon 10-May-21 23:12:04

You’ll appreciate this little tableau then. Those poor children.

Alegrias1 Mon 10-May-21 23:09:25

I believe Keir Hardie was vilified by the press for refusing to turn up in the standard dress for parliament, but wearing tweeds and a deerstalker instead.

Plus ça change.

Casdon Mon 10-May-21 23:08:42

If we’re splitting hairs though, Starmer is by far the smartest dressed, and he has a passing friendship with a comb as well. You may feel there are many things to criticise him for, but have to concede that his appearance is not one of them.
I do agree on the leopard print leggings - but they are less reprehensible than tricking your children out in tweed and party rosettes.

Urmstongran Mon 10-May-21 22:54:44

Johnson and Rees Mogg don’t go to work though in leopard skin leggings. Both wear a suit and tie. Boris ruffles his hair. I think it’s to cover the fact that he has a slight bald patch.

Kali2 Mon 10-May-21 22:50:38

^Keir Starmer in suit and tie.
Angela Raynor in leopard print leggings and DM’s in Hartlepool.

One posh. One not.^

Anyone who comments on the dress code of politicians, and supports Johnson and Rees-Mogg - totally lost the plot! The hypocrisy and irony is so vast.

MaizieD Mon 10-May-21 22:32:44

Kali2 you will find MaizieD tells us it’s not like a household budget that has to be ‘paid back’.

Indeed I would, Ug, and so would any economist. Just try googling it and you'll see loads of results from economists saying that a national economy is not like a household economy.

Do you know what all this supposed 'borrowing' is?

A small part of it is people's savings and investments; National Savings, Premium Bonds and treasury bonds.
People like investing with the government because it is very safe. Because the government will never default. Unlike the commercial banks in the 2007 global financial crisis. If the Labour government hadn't stepped in with quantitative easing all the money people had in their bank accounts would have just gone, 'pouf'... then we'd have been in a real mess.

A large part is money created by a few key strokes by the Bank of England. They're the one that create money and what is more, they are legally obliged to pay anything that the government tells them to pay.

A bit of a conundrum; the government 'owes' money to the BoE, but the BoE belongs to the government and issues money on its orders. So, who 'owes' what to who?

Cuts to public spending are a huge con, and recessionary.

Mamardoit Mon 10-May-21 21:10:41

varian

This is not 2011. Nick Clegg has gone but the LibDems still thrive.

Our Local District Council has 82 Liberal Democrats, 14 Conservatives, 5 Independents and 1 Green Councillor.

No Labour Councillors!

The Labour Party can only hope to survive is it rejects the confrontational undemocratic FPTP system and promotes PR

The areas we live in obviously influence how we see things. Here the LibDems are nothing. Greens are more relevant and they will thrive because they will get the young vote which would in the past have gone to Labour.

I can't see Lab or the Libs getting close to power in the near future. Remember the LibDems totally screwed the student population in England. They are the future voters. The government of the day was tory but the LibDems carry the can for it.

MayBee70 Mon 10-May-21 21:04:18

For heavens sake. We have a PM that looks like a scarecrow even when he’s in parliament. What’s wrong with the way that Raynor and Starmer dress?

Urmstongran Mon 10-May-21 20:58:25

I wonder if it was Angela Rayner who demanded that Keir Starmer should kneel alongside her. Hmm wonder who really is the boss.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 10-May-21 20:50:02

Free Ports would never and have never worked.

PippaZ Mon 10-May-21 20:49:51

Urmstongran

Regarding A divided Labour in reality

Keir Starmer in suit and tie.
Angela Raynor in leopard print leggings and DM’s in Hartlepool.

One posh. One not.

Did she want to promote ‘I’m one of you’? Or did her dress choice seem disrespectful to the voters?

I suppose in the big sea it ought not to matter what she chooses to wear. Except that somehow it does. She is the Deputy Leader of the Opposition.

Isn't each of us one of "us" Urmstongran? More Tory culture wars!