Meanwhile, in Scotland....

And your point being Aleg. What is wrong with having ID cards? I lived with them for 18 years in the Netherlands and they solved more problems than they created.
If you have nothing to hide I cannot see why you object.

Hopefully.
Our immigration statistics are shot.

The Home Office said in a press release today that EU citizens registering for residency are at 5.9 million people (yay! There is much to celebrate here in the UK - people obviously want to live here even post Brexit!) but it demonstrates the lack of accountancy - the HO thought 3 million EU people were living here.

Numbers need to be logged. It’s how we provide enough council services for everybody’s needs. Surely a good thing?

Urmstongran

I’m not digging. Just politely disagreeing Alegrias.

Rule No One on GN. Do not disagree with any of the nonsense spouted by Algerias. She gets shirty!

As long as the mob rule is contained in Scotland and doesn’t spill over the border!

If Scotland becomes independent, they can allow all and sundry, no need to investigate anyone who traipses in if they so wish.Until that time, Scotland is part of the UK and has to abide by it’s immigration rules.

The scenes were indeed shameful. Did any of the protesters bother to find out why the immigrants were being deported.

The sooner the authorities can crack down on disruptive demonstrations like this the better.

Do you know what ‘digging’ means Aleg ? Because this isn’t it. This is posters disagreeing that people in the street should be able to stop either police or immigration officials from doing their jobs.The two men may have been released later depending on their case, but just as rough justice in the form of mob rule cannot be allowed, neither can misplaced kindness.We either have immigration rules or we don’t.
What country btw doesn’t have them?

They're not flipping illegal.

People are not illegal.

If we don't challenge laws we believe to be unjust, well next thing it will be ID cards for all......

Yes they must feel as self righteous as the young woman who stopped a serial rapist from being deported. Disgraceful scenes, as any other country we have immigration rules, most Indians can come here legally, so one wonders why they are illegal.

I’m not digging. Just politely disagreeing Alegrias.

Keep digging ladies..... ??

Urmstongran

Whatever floats your boat. I thought the scenes in Glasgow were a disgrace. It reminded me of the flight, pre-pandemic where passengers managed to stop the deportation of a murderous criminal. We either have laws or we may as well have none.

Exactly.
If citizens can decide who goes and who stays here without the right immigration status then we may just as well give up here and now.
I read that the men concerned were from India...there are legal ways for Indian citizens to apply to come and live here and very many do exactly that.
If you want a country where any amount of illegal immigrants
Slip through then I guess you would call it ‘Paradise’.
Surprising though, because you have no idea if anyone who comes into the country that way has a criminal record, apart from anything else.

One man positioned himself under the Home Office van to prevent it from being driven off, while chants of "Leave our neighbours, let them go" and "Cops go home" rang out at the scene.

Shocking scenes. The Police has to give in to mob rule. “... no one messes with a Glaswegian”. Oh dear. I don’t think that’s anything to be proud of. Sorry. It sounds like The Wild West - poor sheriff!

I’m not in Glasgow but I’m very proud of my country this morning, and all my friends and their kids who were down in Pollokshields protesting yesterday.

Alegrias1

Oh yes, sorry, no good news stories allowed.....

Glaswegians are generally very supportive of asylum seekers WWM2 and generally, nobody argues with a Glaswegian

I can't tell you how good it was to watch everybody making their oaths yesterday, including the first Sikh MSP and the MSP who did hers in BSL!

Well good on them I say. It is uplifting to see such support of a fellow human being in trouble.

Oh yes, sorry, no good news stories allowed.....

Glaswegians are generally very supportive of asylum seekers WWM2 and generally, nobody argues with a Glaswegian

I can't tell you how good it was to watch everybody making their oaths yesterday, including the first Sikh MSP and the MSP who did hers in BSL!

No worse than the unholy racket the police make when on their drug-busting do's at unearthly times in a morning, breaking down doors ? A noise that would waken the dead. Now that is uncalled for. " Nazi style dawn raids. Indeed !

Same form of treatment isn't it ? Or isn't that your style ?

McVities is moving from Glasgow to South of the border, I wonder how many people will lose their jobs?

The 16 year old voters are still waiting for the free bikes and laptops promised before the election. I suspect they'll go the way of all the promises made by SNP at the last election.
Paradise? Tell that to the families of all the drug users who died as Nicola cut the rehab budget and closed down support places.

Whatever floats your boat. I thought the scenes in Glasgow were a disgrace. It reminded me of the flight, pre-pandemic where passengers managed to stop the deportation of a murderous criminal. We either have laws or we may as well have none.

I was incredibly impressed by the Glaswegians. What a sense of community and rejection of the Home Office and its Nazi style dawn raids.