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Catching up with what the government is doing

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Whitewavemark2 Thu 03-Jun-21 16:51:39

So much emphasis and focus has been on covid, that a lot of what is happening is sliding quietly by, particularly as the media contrive to hide a lot of information.

So perhaps we can begin to record important stuff that needs to be in the public domain.

maddyone Sat 12-Jun-21 11:59:45

No Whitewave it’s not so easy, and the government have made a number of errors over the period of the pandemic, and if you’d read many of my posts on other threads, you would know that I have certainly not given unfailing support to the government. However the vaccine rollout has been exemplary and as a nation we have vaccinated far more people than the majority of other countries. Europe is running at about 20% of citizens fully vaccinated whereas Britain is 43%. Not enough yet, but we’re getting there. Credit where credit is due.
Hungary is the only other European country that approximately equals Britain with its vaccine roll out, and that’s because they withdrew from the EU vaccine roll out and decided to go it alone.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 12-Jun-21 11:53:14

GrannyGravy13

Whitewavemark2

There is a large degree of Trump in Johnson’s refusal to criticise the racists who are booing our national team.

As I understand it, many fans of many national teams competing in the Euros are booing the act of taking the knee they are not booing their national team. (Mind you if they start to lose and miss penalties they will)

There is already an anti-racism in football organisation ^kick it out^

I suspect that you will find those booing the symbol of the fight against racism are also those that shout racist slogans etc.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 12-Jun-21 11:48:11

Whitewavemark2

There is a large degree of Trump in Johnson’s refusal to criticise the racists who are booing our national team.

As I understand it, many fans of many national teams competing in the Euros are booing the act of taking the knee they are not booing their national team. (Mind you if they start to lose and miss penalties they will)

There is already an anti-racism in football organisation kick it out

Whitewavemark2 Sat 12-Jun-21 11:41:35

There is a large degree of Trump in Johnson’s refusal to criticise the racists who are booing our national team.

Namsnanny Sat 12-Jun-21 11:16:35

I'm happy, I'm fortunate and I shall use my position to make others a little more fortunate in any way I can.
So I cant see me posting here again.
Just saying.

Dinahmo Sat 12-Jun-21 11:08:43

So recognition from elsewhere. We are not alone.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 12-Jun-21 10:12:10

NY Times opinion, has there ever been a British PM who has attracted such derogatory criticism?

“As a UK citizen, how does it make you feel to see the New York Times describe Boris Johnson as “a terrible leader ...... freewheeling ...... clownish ...... slapdash ...... venal ...... incompetent”, and “a greased piglet” involved in “dodgy dealings, sleaze and chumocracy”?”

Whitewavemark2 Fri 11-Jun-21 09:18:08

Oh identical post more or less to your other one?!

Urmstongran Fri 11-Jun-21 09:07:42

Well GB News fires up this Sunday. I can’t wait. Balanced and honest news - nothing like Fox News with a British accent says Andrew Neil. Bring it on. I for one cannot wait! Government policy under scrutiny from news presenters with gravitas.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 11-Jun-21 08:12:08

It seems that Johnson has more in common with Trump than blond hair.

Just like Trump, Johnson is neither trusted nor has built up a level of goodwill by other governments, and Lisa Nandy, who is in touch with foreign minister is say that they are saying that Britain has “left the field” in dealing with a number of challenges, just as Trump did.

Britain cannot talk about “global Britain” when it doesn’t have a friendly working relationship with its nearest neighbour and one of the worlds big trading blocks.

An EU economic analyst reckons that as things stand there is a 30% danger if a trade war between the EU and U.K.

Callistemon Thu 10-Jun-21 20:06:10

GillT57

Callistemon I agree with your comments about London housing as reported in News at Ten. It is truly disgusting and whoever is in charge, irrespective of their political party must be held responsible. So, no, your post is not whataboutery. I keep trying to explain that my disgust with this Tory administration is not because they are Tory, it is because the current cabinet are liars, cheats, corrupt and unfit for office.

I don't think they are all like this but they have been kicked on to the subs bench.

MaizieD Thu 10-Jun-21 19:42:28

maddyone

As lemon says, it’s easy to carp and moan from your armchair Maizie. Especially if anything the government does won’t be good enough for some people.

Unfortunately, maddyone, there is evidence of the government's incompetence and corruption as far as the pandemic goes. Shutting your eyes and ears to it won't make it go away.

GillT57 Thu 10-Jun-21 19:32:06

Callistemon I agree with your comments about London housing as reported in News at Ten. It is truly disgusting and whoever is in charge, irrespective of their political party must be held responsible. So, no, your post is not whataboutery. I keep trying to explain that my disgust with this Tory administration is not because they are Tory, it is because the current cabinet are liars, cheats, corrupt and unfit for office.

maddyone Thu 10-Jun-21 19:10:50

As lemon says, it’s easy to carp and moan from your armchair Maizie. Especially if anything the government does won’t be good enough for some people.

lemongrove Thu 10-Jun-21 18:50:19

Yes, easy peasy to carp, moan and groan about the government from the comfort of your armchair ww but don’t worry, you are not alone, it’s always been a national sport.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 10-Jun-21 18:42:03

MaizieD

^And what does anyone expect the government to be doing in the middle of a pandemic? There’d be a whole lot of government bashing if they were failing to get to deal with the pandemic^.

As they've also failed to do that with any competence, maddyone we can just add it to the general bashing.. grin

???

So easy isn’t it?

MaizieD Thu 10-Jun-21 18:31:18

And what does anyone expect the government to be doing in the middle of a pandemic? There’d be a whole lot of government bashing if they were failing to get to deal with the pandemic.

As they've also failed to do that with any competence, maddyone we can just add it to the general bashing.. grin

lemongrove Thu 10-Jun-21 17:49:38

Do so many deny it? In any case each accusation is meant by the media ( right or wrong) to stir up outrage. Things are taken out of context often too.Some things that some voters hate, others like, and who is to say ( if not in government themselves) what the right way forward is. You can catalogue perceived bad policies/ ideas forever on GN but that doesn’t make them bad policies/ ideas.

Dinahmo Thu 10-Jun-21 17:37:43

We have to keep govt bashing because there have been so many lies and and so much misinformation that we need to keep pointing it out.

lemongrove if everything on this thread is already in the public domain why do so many on here deny it?

MayBee70 Thu 10-Jun-21 17:34:51

lemongrove

Ah, the old head in the sand comment given another outing.
Your comments recently have been oh so defensive Gill can’t think why, you like knocking a Conservative government and I like pointing out that with the terrible year for health and the economy that they haven’t done a bad job of it.

For what it’s worth, over the past few months I have emailed Andrew Mitchell and Nadine Dorries (yes that surprised me too) to thank them for things that they said so, imo I’m someone that will hand out praise when it is earned but also call a spade a spade when I feel an injustice has been done. So I resent being accused of criticising the government for the sake of it. And I’d give more credence to supporters of the government if they would just, occasionally, criticise them for wrongdoings.

maddyone Thu 10-Jun-21 17:32:03

lemongrove

Since everything mentioned on here is already in the public domain I can’t see any point in the OP.
If it’s just a government bashing spree then at least say so.
Still, bravely soldier on if you enjoy it.?

Quite!
And what does anyone expect the government to be doing in the middle of a pandemic? There’d be a whole lot of government bashing if they were failing to get to deal with the pandemic.

Callistemon Thu 10-Jun-21 17:26:34

My post disappeared about housing in Southwark.
Perhaps just as well as I am upset and angry.

Barracks can be cleaned. Give the people the equipment to do that.

Sub-standard accommodation in Southwark where ceilings that cave in with leaks after years of complaints is a disgrace.
A woman on the news last night who filmed this happening in her flat was relieved her young son was not injured.

Councillor Kieron Williams became Leader of the Council in September 2020. Kieron was elected as a Labour councillor in Camberwell Green ward in 2014. He joined Southwark's Cabinet in 2018, taking on the jobs, skills and innovation portfolio, and has served as Cabinet Member for Housing and Modernisation since 2019.

He needs investigating for failing in his duty of care.

There are many people having to live like this in this country.

Someone will accuse me of Whataboutery?
Carry on.

I am angry

Whitewavemark2 Thu 10-Jun-21 17:07:42

Blimey

Kali2 Thu 10-Jun-21 17:05:12

Things will get a lot more complicated after the end of June- so far we have been protected (!) from the true realities of Brexit.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 10-Jun-21 16:49:12

No surprise given that we have the Brexit factor to deal with on top of everything else. But just wait until Sunak reintroduces austerity, the Tories know how to suppress an economy. You ain’t seen nothing yet