One law for football fans?

Where was the. Social distancing? A rule for one and one for another makes a complete mockery of it all.

This is getting very mixed up isn't it:

Too much footie on TV
Women being disadvantaged
Scots fans running amok
Nicola Sturgeon

Shall we pick one thing to be outraged about at one time, then maybe we have a better chance of understanding each others posts.

Galaxy

No but it is often part of it dragonfly, hence keeps the proles happy. Its fine not to like things, I strongly dislike the royal family, and it's never ending presence on the news, but I understand that many many people like that.

Well, there we are Galaxy, we do see eye to eye on something. I am two days older than the Heir to the Throne, but apart from the air we breathe and the fact that we both have a healthy fondness for the opposite gender, I feel he and I have nothing in common. As for the media obsession with the Royals, I was amused some years back when a spoof headline appeared in a satirical magazine "Fergie stubs toe!" which kinds summed it all up.

Definitely one rule for football fans and another for everyone else. Ashcombe, I agree with you about schools turning the day into a 'football fest' !!! Madness.
I fully understand the passion people have for the game , I don't understand why they feel they have the right to run amok in our streets causing chaos and fear to other people. The football mentality is beyond my comprehension and does a great disservice to those fans who behave in a civilized manner. These fans are like wild animals!!!!! Their whole lives must be taken over with their football madness. Sickening.

Blimey this is a first, I totally agree with you Kali2

I cannot see the reasoning in the Scotland fans coming to London, they did not have tickets and there were no Fan Zones set up available for them to view the match.

Alegrias1

I don't like football much.

Lots of people do. And I mean lots. So if there is a big international festival of football, I guess we will all just have to find something else to watch on TV for a while.

Such snobbery.

Totally unfair Alegrias.

Some of us have not seen our close family for such a long time- and thought we were going to be able to soon. Then comes this Delta/Indian variant, and it looks like we might have to continue to be VERY careful for a long time still. We were supposed to go back to some form to more or less 'normal' on 21st- but this has not happened, and for very good reasons.

And yesterday we saw hordes of people screaming, packed together in their thousands, in a town where so many are not vaccinated- are we being snoobish for thinking that is very worrying?

And I don't care if it was football or rugby, or tiddly winks!!!

I enjoy football but I really feel that this year the Euros should not have gone ahead. I don't think the Olympics should be happening either. We are not out of the woods yet so why would a major football tournament be given the green light to go ahead? Of course it is going to attract crowds of supporters, with the vast majority of them ignoring any distancing or face mask rules. They will drink, get drunk, leave rubbish, cause disruption and damage. Very surprised it has been allowed when the rest of us have to conform.

No but it is often part of it dragonfly, hence keeps the proles happy. Its fine not to like things, I strongly dislike the royal family, and it's never ending presence on the news, but I understand that many many people like that.

Sparklefizz

Didn't Nicola Sturgeon very recently refuse to allow double-vaccinated passengers (including Scots) to disembark from a cruise ship, due to Covid, and yet she is quite happy for 20,000 Scots to descend on London and cause havoc? Talk about hypocrisy.

She wasn't happy. Really. Talk about missing the point entirely......

There's a whole other thread dedicated to Nicola bashing, maybe you'd like to visit it? See you there.

I must be a lone voice here. I didn't see any of the scenes of hooligans. The police made 26 arrests in London. George Square in Glasgow was "peaceful" noisy but not violent.
My street here in the Scottish Borders was noisy as well.

Chances are there will be another lockdown as a result of the covid super-spreader gatherings.

The heavy handed break up of a seemingly peaceful vigil on Clapham Common in March resulted in 9 arrests and a loss of confidence in the police.

I watched the match on TV but nothing before or after so it must have been then that the feelings were whipped up!

DGD plays for a girl's football team and it has helped her in many ways through adolescence and school- socially, mentally and physically.

Didn't Nicola Sturgeon very recently refuse to allow double-vaccinated passengers (including Scots) to disembark from a cruise ship, due to Covid, and yet she is quite happy for 20,000 Scots to descend on London and cause havoc? Talk about hypocrisy.

It is not snobbery not to like something or be annoyed that it has taken over the networks.
Nor is it snobbery to dislike the behaviour of some of it fans and some of its overpaid players.

Add snooker too Esspee.
Dh and i was flicking through the tv channels a couple of weeks ago,and a snooker game was on with a packed audience of hundreds with NO social distancing, sat next to each other.
They did have masks on,bit i found it unbelieveable,especialy as it was in an indoor arena.
Common sense has gone out of the window for certain sporting events.

there their

It's not the game itself, of course it's not. It's the culture that surrounds it and the worst of the fans wherever they come from who follow there team to wherever. I worked up in London when fans from elsewhere descended, they're often drunk, they take over streets, they strip off, climb in fountains, shout out obscenities, you can't escape them travelling about on the tube. It's horrible!

I don't like football much.

Lots of people do. And I mean lots. So if there is a big international festival of football, I guess we will all just have to find something else to watch on TV for a while.

Such snobbery.

I think the game itself is good for many reasons, health, team building etc. However the culture surrounding it is a problem. I agree with vegansrock.

The behaviour of fans in London yesterday didn’t look very different from what I witnessed years ago. Have you seen the mess they left in Leicester Square?

Yes, I feel totally unashamedly snobbish about it.

I am sure that football has a place in the development of young people as does any sport but I agree with Ashcombe and Olddudders there is far too much emphasis on it in this country.

I resent that every tv network has turned its schedule upside down we can’t even have the news on time! The first item on the news is the result of the last match - is it really more important than Covid, Brexit, climate change?

I for one am heartily sick of it.

Sorry for some reason I thought you said in the seventies

The seventies was a long time ago. I was at a football match pre covid. No wild animals.

Have you been to a football match lately. That culture has changed considerably. It's a fairly family orientated activity these days. Of course there are elements of bad behaviour but the disdain for football is often snobbery.

The sight of those football fans would make anyone feel snooty. What louts.

My first and only encounter with football fans was decades ago in London, on the escalators at some station. As it happens, they were Scottish. It was as if a crowd of wild animals had descended on us, hideous and terrifying.

I do realise that not all fans are like this, but I wouldn’t like to be associated with an interest where anybody behaved in that way.

Galaxy

I could describe the benefits that both my sons gained from football, understanding of teamwork, cooperation, better health, friends etc, the issue of fans congregating is a seperate issue, but the disdain for football is very interesting to watch.

There is a huge distinction between the undeniable health etc benefits of any sport and the laddish culture that surrounds football.

Riverwalk

^But politicians know it keeps the proles happy^

You sound very snooty, and up yourself.

Completely, my dear, completely!