RNLI and Farage

From the Mailonline (see my previous post):
"And what is more, it is clear that the Royal National Lifeboat Institution — the registered charity so many of us help fund through donations, garden fetes and collection boxes — is regularly sending its vessels into French waters to bring in migrants. It is, say critics, doing so even if they are not in imminent danger and in areas which are the responsibility of the French — not British — sea rescue services."
Critics suggest more people than Mr Farage. Whilst I have every sympathy with refugees, are the RNLI really helping if they are supporting this illegal trafficking of people. If they are, then they are effectively colluding with criminals to put the lives of desperate people at risk.
As the article says it is the duty of the EU/French Government to patrol their own waters not a British charity.

I've never frothed.

WWM2, is that you frothing? Lucca? Stop that frothing. Everyone: stop frothing this instant.

It would be comical if it wasn't so dispiriting.

Thank you 25Avalon. You have actually taken time to listen to the point being made instead of frothing about some perceived injustice. As far as I can see it is you and other previous posters who are being disingenuous WWM2, throwing missiles without establishing whether the target is actually the enemy at all. My comment was quite sincere.

RNLI are actually going into French waters when it should be the French rescue services. They know our RNLI are humanitarian and they are taking advantage.

Having read Farage’s comments I don’t see much wrong with what he said. Certainly not vile as some would make out. Just shows you should always read for yourself.

I also take the point that the RNLI are volunteers with jobs and if they are being called out over and over again it may not be sustainable for some of them.

I don't like Farage but having watched the clip I can see his point. Using a charity such as RNLI to do the work of the authorities is wrong. Of course the RLNI will go out to save people at risk but I don't believe this is how they should be used.

It has just been suggested to me that the RNLI should not be involved at all, it is the job of the British Government and the coastguard if the boats are in British waters.

That is a fair point although I know that the RNLI will not ignore a distress call.

I listened. He sort of has a point that rescue lifeboats shouldn't have to sort this mess out.
However, I very much dislike the way he speaks.

Chestnut

Lucca

Against my better judgement I’ve just watched the clip of farage ranting on Gb news. (He said frankly four or five times by the way!) He even brought a dig at Harry and Meghan wondering if the RNLI were using the same PR firm…
Odious man.

Well I hadn't seen it, so I checked it out.
The truth about the RNLI
How many people posting on this thread have actually watched it?
He is not criticising the RNLI at all, he is supporting them. The point being that the RNLI are being used as a taxi service by the traffickers when it should be the British or French authorities who deal with the migrants. This should not be the work of a charitable organisation. Fair comment. Even the RNLI volunteers are unhappy about it. Of course WWM2 and other posters will always salivate at the chance to bash Farage, which is boring and predictable. Why not check the facts first. Lucca's post above is typical, completely ignores the subject itself and picks on two irrelevant things which have no bearing on it whatsoever just so she can have a pop.

Quite extraordinary, and disingenuous.

He is not criticising the RNLI at all, he is supporting them.

Hogwash.

His actual words: "I have no desire to pick a fight with the RNLI....but if (they) want to pick a fight with me that's fine by me. I've fought people bigger and uglier than you."

The man is a disgrace and anybody who supports him is no better. He's a bully and a liar.

Lucca

Against my better judgement I’ve just watched the clip of farage ranting on Gb news. (He said frankly four or five times by the way!) He even brought a dig at Harry and Meghan wondering if the RNLI were using the same PR firm…
Odious man.

Well I hadn't seen it, so I checked it out.
The truth about the RNLI
How many people posting on this thread have actually watched it?
He is not criticising the RNLI at all, he is supporting them. The point being that the RNLI are being used as a taxi service by the traffickers when it should be the British or French authorities who deal with the migrants. This should not be the work of a charitable organisation. Fair comment. Even the RNLI volunteers are unhappy about it. Of course WWM2 and other posters will always salivate at the chance to bash Farage, which is boring and predictable. Why not check the facts first. Lucca's post above is typical, completely ignores the subject itself and picks on two irrelevant things which have no bearing on it whatsoever just so she can have a pop.

BlueBelle

Please put Farage in a dingy with a slow leak and push him out to sea as far as possible, maybe they can save him when he screams loudly enough (see I m not unkind)
Outrageous man the thought of his foul words make me feel sick?

I was going to say that but he can only be saved when he apologises profusely and hands over a very large donation to the RNLI.

Just keep donating- the best way to tell Farage what you think of him.

Watching someone drown would go against the grain of most people and especially those who are brave and selfless enough to volunteer to rescue people from the sea. Nigel Farage is no longer relevant in this country so he comes out with his stupid comments to keep himself in the limelight.

If you watch any of the lifeboat programmes on television and see how distraught they are if they fail to save someone there is no way they would leave someone to drown.

Please put Farage in a dingy with a slow leak and push him out to sea as far as possible, maybe they can save him when he screams loudly enough (see I m not unkind)
Outrageous man the thought of his foul words make me feel sick?

I've just watched his rant, at least I watched 2 minutes. What on earth was he thinking? And it all comes down to money, in his mind, those poor businessmen on the South Coast who keep being called out to save lives, how must their businesses be suffering?

I can't believe anyone falls for this rubbish, surely. If they do, what kind of people are they?

Too many question marks, I know...

Some who doesn't normally send more than a couple of Christmas cards says they'll be sending many RNLI ones this year!

Just as a bit of fact. The UN rules that refugeesDO NOT have to stay in the first country they come to.

It is a GLOBAL RESPONSIBILTY.

I have posted this elsewhere on here but for those that haven't read it here is the UNHCR report on asylum in the UK

www.unhcr.org/uk/asylum-in-the-uk.html

As regards deaths, 1400 were reported in the Mediterranean in 2020 and 6 reported to have died and 3 missing in the English Channel in 2020. This shows what good work the RNLI are doing but there are also Italian boats in the Med doing search and rescue.

The fact is most refugees are entering into Europe via N Africa or Greece (currently the most beleagured) and finding their way into northern Europe.

Well as a result of Farage and the moronic people who support him, I have just sent the RNLI a donation. I must check again which companies are advertising on GB news as I will be buying anything from them until they stop.

Maybe Farage has a point...

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9750655/Migration-madness-thats-radar-THREE-revelations-border-policing.html

God bless the RNLI for saving people whatever but unfortunately unscrupulous people may be taking advantage of them, essentially putting more lives in danger!

Seems the French should be doing more to protect their people.

Well, he’s full of hot air so would probably float….

I know this is quite unfeeling of me...but can Nigel swim?

One of my Facebook friends thinks we should just requisition all the boats on the French coast to stop the migrants using them. Its like we've gone down a bizarre rabbit hole.

3 cheers for the RNLI. ???