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RNLI and Farage

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Whitewavemark2 Thu 29-Jul-21 09:44:45

I am finding it difficult to get my brain around the concept, that there are people in this country who would rather let a world wide respected maritime organisation see people drown than save them.

I just hope that Farage criticising them for doing their job ensures that they have the best year yet from donations.

Nanna58 Fri 30-Jul-21 11:54:27

I always thought I would cut out my tongue rather than agree with Jeremy Clarkson but he wrote an excellent article recently. He said that the migrants had shown determination courage and often ingenuity to get here , so why on Earth why weren’t we taking advantage of these qualities and giving these people the training to help them stay here but not only support themselves but contribute to society. PS hope I don’t have to agree with him m again?

Chestnut Fri 30-Jul-21 11:49:44

frenchie

Chesnut all the ones defending Farage

No-one is 'defending' Farage, just hearing the point he makes. Have you listened to the video? Or are you one of these 'I hate Farage therefore anything he says and anyone who agrees with it are heartless monsters?' Check it out, no-one (including him) have said anything against the RNLI or the saving of lives.

Daisend1 Fri 30-Jul-21 11:47:50

Germansheperdsmum
I live on the north Cornwall coast and not unusual for the brave men and women of the RNLI to frequently carry out animal rescue.
Correct if wrong but is not the RNLI motto
'*with courage anything is possible*

Nanna58 Fri 30-Jul-21 11:46:56

Whatever next from that revolting odious but dangerous man- that Cancer Research only look to find curs for British people? I’d love love love him to go on Who Do You Think You Are and find multiple ethnic relaives\ancestors??

Whitewavemark2 Fri 30-Jul-21 11:44:49

You see how Farage has “allowed” xenophobia to raise its ugly head.

He will be pleased

Bigirl57 Fri 30-Jul-21 11:41:19

On the one hand of course the RNLI do a wonderful job no one can say otherwise we have a direct debit set up and donate money each month ( we do own a boat) But I would like to know why don’t the French go out and take them back to safety when they can clearly be seen in dinghies which were never designed to go across the channel. Also why are volunteer lifeboat crews being used when U.K. border force should have more craft of their own to do the job. Who is calling out the lifeboats is it the border force or is it the people on the small craft who are calling for help, why do they leave a safe country to come to the UK why??? By the lifeboats going out to these craft if they are not in danger of sinking or distress yachtsman could be at risk because the lifeboats are busy elsewhere looking after the immigrants. Are the government abusing the kindness of volunteers on the lifeboats to assist border force on the cheap, the UK government apparently has given the French many millions of pounds to stop the migrants getting into their boats in the first place and yet hundreds of them are still making the crossing over one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world. Also how do we know that the migrants are all deserving cases and there are not terrorist among them who in time could carry out an outrage and kill many people in the UK. How do you know?.. The truth is we don’t know who they are.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 30-Jul-21 11:38:03

Galaxy

Is it a choice. Because could we swap some of the people who are trolling the RNLI for the people they are rescuing, that would ease some of the problems you mention.

Excellent idea.

Galaxy Fri 30-Jul-21 11:36:31

Is it a choice. Because could we swap some of the people who are trolling the RNLI for the people they are rescuing, that would ease some of the problems you mention.

frenchie Fri 30-Jul-21 11:36:20

Chesnut all the ones defending Farage

25Avalon Fri 30-Jul-21 11:33:08

libra10

In the GB News programme, Nigel Farage also stated that he was proud to have helped the RNLI to raise money in the past.

He wasn't having a dig at the RNLI, he was annoyed that the French were doing so little at stopping these boats leaving the coast, and also about the traffickers who are paid £1000s for a place on a dinghy or whatever.

How biased this thread has become!

And no-one has questioned about what will happen to these people once reaching the UK shore.

How many houses will need to be built?
How much NHS help will be needed?
Which schools will their children attend?

We are a small over-populated country, our resources are bursting at the seams!

When they reach the shore all those posters in favour of them coming are going to-

Pay an extra 20% tax

Share their house

Not complain if they can’t get an NHS appointment because the service is oversubscribed

Agree to have umpteen houses built on the green belt around them because there is nowhere else.

And the rest. No complaints.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 30-Jul-21 11:23:49

frenchie

I am absolutely appalled by the callousness of some posters. They are probably the same people who were telling all and sundry “All lives Matter” when the Black Lives Matter was in the news.
But obviously it doesn’t include those poor souls risking their lives in very unsafe boats.
Shame, shame on you

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Chestnut Fri 30-Jul-21 11:23:03

Who has been callous Frenchie??
No-one here has shown anything but respect and support for the RNLI. There may be idiots out there in the world who are throwing abuse at them but not on this thread. So who should be shamed and why?

frenchie Fri 30-Jul-21 11:18:24

I am absolutely appalled by the callousness of some posters. They are probably the same people who were telling all and sundry “All lives Matter” when the Black Lives Matter was in the news.
But obviously it doesn’t include those poor souls risking their lives in very unsafe boats.
Shame, shame on you

Quizzer Fri 30-Jul-21 11:15:22

The RNLI are there to save lives. They have no political axe to grind. Do the criticisers expect them to stand by and watch the migrants drown?

Whitewavemark2 Fri 30-Jul-21 11:15:01

Paperbackwriter

No surprise, coming from Farage. The man's an utter idiot and with all the human empathy of a brick.

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Paperbackwriter Fri 30-Jul-21 11:07:20

No surprise, coming from Farage. The man's an utter idiot and with all the human empathy of a brick.

libra10 Fri 30-Jul-21 11:01:20

In the GB News programme, Nigel Farage also stated that he was proud to have helped the RNLI to raise money in the past.

He wasn't having a dig at the RNLI, he was annoyed that the French were doing so little at stopping these boats leaving the coast, and also about the traffickers who are paid £1000s for a place on a dinghy or whatever.

How biased this thread has become!

And no-one has questioned about what will happen to these people once reaching the UK shore.

How many houses will need to be built?
How much NHS help will be needed?
Which schools will their children attend?

We are a small over-populated country, our resources are bursting at the seams!

GillT57 Fri 30-Jul-21 10:59:46

Sundowngirl just a reminder that Ms Patel's parents were what we would today describe as economic migrants. Farage is a malicious and silly old fool with nothing to do but stir up indignation in those stupid enough not to realise they are being played. I don't use the word stupid accidentally, I can't tell you how many posts I have read on FB from people proudly announcing they have stopped their DD to the RNLI, how can you be proud to announce you are happy for people to drown? Probably the same people who are not bothered that the cut in Foreign Aid will condemn hundreds of thousands of people to a premature death. Usually goes with the people don't really need foodbanks philosophy as well I find. All very predictable, but still sickening.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 30-Jul-21 10:58:16

Yes donate - best message for the RNLI

varian Fri 30-Jul-21 10:53:35

Huge increase in donations to RNLI since Farage's hate filled attack

www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/29/rnli-donations-soar-in-response-to-farages-migrant-criticism

vegansrock Fri 30-Jul-21 10:47:24

chestnut plenty of people have criticised the RNLI for doing their job- plenty of hate on Twitter and even threats and vile abuse from people on shore. Farage said they were providing a “taxi service” , which has stirred up the hate.

Kali2 Fri 30-Jul-21 10:47:10

Must admit I was too busy yesterday- but I have just donated.

Keeping donations up is the best message we can send to haters - and to the RNLI that do such an amazing job.

sundowngirl Fri 30-Jul-21 10:46:42

25Avalon

RNLI are actually going into French waters when it should be the French rescue services. They know our RNLI are humanitarian and they are taking advantage.

Having read Farage’s comments I don’t see much wrong with what he said. Certainly not vile as some would make out. Just shows you should always read for yourself.

25Avalon I totally agree with you. I do not think Nigel's comments were wrong and the RNLI should not be used as a taxi service for these illegal 'economic' migrants who are mostly young men

vegansrock Fri 30-Jul-21 10:44:32

So should the taxpayer be funding the RNLI? I wouldn’t have a problem with this, but then as a public service they would cease to be voluntary , or should the coast guards have a fleet of life boats / paid crew to do this job? Surely there isn’t anything wrong with what the RNLI are currently doing. I think what Farage wants is for no one to do this job and people in these boats to disappear.

Chestnut Fri 30-Jul-21 10:43:01

Chestnut

Well, WWM2 I wonder if you can 'get you head around' the fact that your OP is complete nonsense. Who are these people you mention who would rather let people drown than save them? And who has criticised the RNLI for doing their job?

I see you have conveniently ignored my questions relating to your OP WWM2