Fingers crossed for Pen Farthing and Nowzad

MaizieD

It appears that James Cleverly has also suggested that members of the armed forces who suffer PTSD or similar mental health problems as a result of serving in Afghanistan, particularly in the harrowing last few days, should seek help from charities

Perhaps GG13 can reassure me that they will be supported by less random services...

When AC came back from Afghanistan he and his men/women had counselling available from the Army along with a myriad of Army/Forces Charities if they felt they needed it.

MaizieD yes clearly and plenty of others too blind to what has just happened in plain sight.

Tanith .
These animals are NOT taking up space that COULD be used for humans.
Animals are transported by air twenty four seven and travel in allocated areas where you would NOT put a human being.

Whatdayisit

Yes GrannyGravy David Lammy Labour MP is right but the interpreters were not given the yes to a Visa till just before the Taliban took over and the fault the stragglers didn't get out was because of the UK Government's inaction.

We've been signing petitions about this since early summer. Are govt. ministers living on a different planet from us?

It appears that James Cleverly has also suggested that members of the armed forces who suffer PTSD or similar mental health problems as a result of serving in Afghanistan, particularly in the harrowing last few days, should seek help from charities

Perhaps GG13 can reassure me that they will be supported by less random services...

Yes GrannyGravy David Lammy Labour MP is right but the interpreters were not given the yes to a Visa till just before the Taliban took over and the fault the stragglers didn't get out was because of the UK Government's inaction.

Cross post GG13

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I believe it was James Cleverly.

Blimey I am so sorry it was James Cleverly MP, I really should only concentrate on one thing at a time, sorry.

JaneJudge

GrannyGravy, David Lammy is a Labour MP for Tottenham

Obviously not him then, I didn’t catch his name, apologies to Mr.Lammy.

GrannyGravy, David Lammy is a Labour MP for Tottenham

mumof2boys

As The Times, Telegraph and Daily Mail turn their fire on Farthing, The Observer reports that thousands of emails to the Foreign Office about the evacuation from Afghanistan went unread. That’s the story that should be getting the most attention today but the Tory-supporting press is putting the blame on one annoying bloke rather than a whole government of incompetents and grifters.

Pen Farthing left himself open to being framed as a villain by the papers and hero by his social media fans. While Ben Wallace rages and the right-wing newspapers smear, Dominic Raab will be absolutely delighted that he’s no longer the only one in the dog house.

this is spot on

There was a Government Minister in the news this morning I believe it was David Lammy. He reiterated that U.K. Nationals were informed in April this year to leave Afghanistan, and that’s when the evacuation started, five months to get out first on scheduled flights, when these were unable to continue it was charter flights and ending with military flights of the last week.

There was indeed a last minute rush, which no doubt was fuelled by the Taliban taking over the Country and ousting the legitimate Government. Not sure why US/U.K. intelligence could not have predicted this event?

The U.K. could not have stayed at Kabul Airport any longer as it was controlled and protected by US Forces. Once they were going home (leaving approximately $85 million of equipment including aircraft, black hawk helicopters and a multitude of armoured vehicles and weaponry, so the Taliban will either be extremely well equipped or rich on the proceeds of selling it to the highest bidder) the U.K. had no choice other than to withdraw.

Yes absolutely mumof2boys and why is Raab still sitting pretty.

As The Times, Telegraph and Daily Mail turn their fire on Farthing, The Observer reports that thousands of emails to the Foreign Office about the evacuation from Afghanistan went unread. That’s the story that should be getting the most attention today but the Tory-supporting press is putting the blame on one annoying bloke rather than a whole government of incompetents and grifters.

Pen Farthing left himself open to being framed as a villain by the papers and hero by his social media fans. While Ben Wallace rages and the right-wing newspapers smear, Dominic Raab will be absolutely delighted that he’s no longer the only one in the dog house.

Convenient ‘look over there ‘ distraction from the Govt , their pet papers and social media bots.

Whilst everyone is arguing over Dogs & cats no one is asking why this evacuation didn’t start in May when they were warned to & why it’s such an appalling shambles.

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Just heard on news that third of his animals were in the cabin not the hold. Also read that the shelter staff were supplied with visas so obviously not UK govs fault they weren’t allowed through.

It seems to be growing into a much bigger story than it should.

Blossoming

I understand that Mr. Farthing and his accompanying cats and dogs are now in the UK, the animals have been examined by vets, declared to be in good health and are now in quarantine facilities.

Surely this is good news.

Actually, the animals are in UK - he is in Norway

The Daily Mail online.

JaneJudge

this is an interesting article which will no doubt wind some people up

That rests the case for now I would say.

There is a great article about Pen and his animals in The Daily Mail today (after all the nasty ones at the weekend) and some stories about the animals he has helped.

There’s some strange comments on here. Lost me I’m afraid.

Dinahmo

Callistemon and Whatdayisit

Maybe you should think about the ownership of the Sunday Times and a bit about Tim Shipman. The latter is currently political editor and has only ever written for right wing papers.

The former is owned by News UK which is a wholly owned subsidiary of News Corp (formerly News international). The CEO of News UK is Rebekah Brooks, formerly of News of the World and of course News Corp is owned by Robert Murdoch.

Brooks just happened to be editor during the infamous phone hacking which took place when the paper launched its campaign against "naming and shaming" whilst at the same time hacking the voice mail of Sarah Payne's mother.

The Guardian and the Observer are owned by a trust, as I'm sure you are aware. Are you saying that you disbelieve the statement that it was an announcement from the MOD?

The Guardian was instrumental in uncovering evidence about the phone hacking and is no friend of News Corp.

Not sure why I'm getting a lecture about The Times as I've never mentioned it, never read it and not linked to it.

Ps I posted a link to The Guardian article, not the Times, Dinahmo

If only there were more humans like Pen Farthing, the world would be a better place.