Is this a humiliation for Glasgow? ?

What is the fuss about, things worked out well in the summer when the summit was held in little Cornwall,in Glasgow it will be a success I am sure

Three cruise ships giving the delegates a tour of the Scottish coast sounds a great idea. They could do their negotiating against a background of the kind of climatic areas and environment that their decisions could affect, while eating Scottish salmon hatched in cool waters and drinking whisky made with peaty water..However I imagine it would not go down well with all environmentalists and/or privilege-fighters on various grounds.

Okey doke Lemongrove

In other news, here's a wee gif I'm sure the Scots Grans will like. And others too, I'm sure.

makeagif.com/i/WZcmLF

Thanks for that nugget Algerias ?
My post is in answer to Elegran so nothing to do with where the Outer Hebrides are.

The Hebrides aren't on the North Coast of Scotland. Even though The Scotsman got a bit confused.

www.shetlandtimes.co.uk/2021/10/18/really-the-scotsman-apologises-after-headline-implies-shetland-is-in-the-hebrides#:~:text=The%20Scotsman%20has%20apologised%20after,as%20a%20%E2%80%9CHebridean%20hero%E2%80%9D.

As you were.

Actually MaizieD.......that’s not a bad idea.?

Not talking about the Outer Hebrides here!
Just not actually in a city. Possibly it couldn’t be done in Scotland.The logistics for holding something on this scale are difficult but doable at any normal time, but times are not completely normal as yet.

Elegran

lemongrove

I can see why COP26 needs to go ahead and can also see that it can’t be done virtually, but surely it could have taken place in a bit more remote place.Also one where it wouldn’t have caused inconvenience to local people.I also doubt that each country represented needs such a massive entourage.

The more remote the location, the more inconvenience per local inhabitant.
How would the delegates get there? There would probably not be an airport for a hundred miles or more, and the bus service could be one a day in each direction, so they would need a fleet of taxis.
Where would they all sleep if there were no hotels? "Remote" usually means "not many inhabitants" so not many spare rooms.
Where would the full-scale meetings be held? The church hall?
How would supplies for large numbers of hungry participants, and the IT equipments for communications with each other and the media be brought in over long and inadequate roads?
How would all the international journalists be accommodated, and would the the wifi up to the strain?

I think they could hire at least three of those floating high rise blocks that are laughingly named 'cruise ships', pack the whole lot onto them and chug the whole lot up to the north coast of Scotland

Oh, and remote places have no trains for hundreds of miles either. All part of what makes them more remote.

lemongrove

I can see why COP26 needs to go ahead and can also see that it can’t be done virtually, but surely it could have taken place in a bit more remote place.Also one where it wouldn’t have caused inconvenience to local people.I also doubt that each country represented needs such a massive entourage.

The more remote the location, the more inconvenience per local inhabitant.
How would the delegates get there? There would probably not be an airport for a hundred miles or more, and the bus service could be one a day in each direction, so they would need a fleet of taxis.
Where would they all sleep if there were no hotels? "Remote" usually means "not many inhabitants" so not many spare rooms.
Where would the full-scale meetings be held? The church hall?
How would supplies for large numbers of hungry participants, and the IT equipments for communications with each other and the media be brought in over long and inadequate roads?
How would all the international journalists be accommodated, and would the the wifi up to the strain?

All through the pandemic, in Renfrewshire and East Renfrewshire which border Glasgow City Council LA , there have been lots of volunteers, clearing up litter.
My daughter has been clearing her street of leaves, from trees over a hundred years old. The falling leaves make the roads and pavements slippy.
Lots of people here, taking pride in their local area.

We watched The One Show this evening (unusual for us but it featured something of interest to us)

There was a feature about Glasgow hosting the COP26 and the 2,000 or so local volunteers cleaning up the city in preparation.

Well done to all of them, they are doing a sterling job because they're keen to show off their city of which they are so proud.

I can see why COP26 needs to go ahead and can also see that it can’t be done virtually, but surely it could have taken place in a bit more remote place.Also one where it wouldn’t have caused inconvenience to local people.I also doubt that each country represented needs such a massive entourage.

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Callistemon we’re still using besoms where I live ?

One thing that strikes me during an international conference on the environment, climate change, air pollution, sustainability, etc - has the cruise ship been asked to use shore power rather than using its own power? Because if not it will be belching out huge amounts of air pollution and not supporting local power services.

Brighton rubbish piling up in the streets due to bin men’s strike.

Good job it’s not in Brighton they have rubbish piled up in the streets. There was talk of bringing in the army to clear it up.

TillyTrotter

No they didn’t Callistemon (I don’t live in Birmingham). There are other big events at the NEC and it can have have more than 25,000 pass through in a day - but the parallel I was drawing was that Scotland/Glasgow need not feel humiliated as OP asks, as English cities get those problems at times too.

It never happens in Wales, TillyTrotter
We are all out with our brooms sweeping up every morning.

Do 30,000 people actually need to attend in person? Could the key people not just meet quietly somewhere and share the conversations online? Money could then be redirected to set up the necessary communication infrastructure for countries who cannot otherwise join in. Cut attendees, cut unnecessary pollution, help poorer countries?

No they didn’t Callistemon (I don’t live in Birmingham). There are other big events at the NEC and it can have have more than 25,000 pass through in a day - but the parallel I was drawing was that Scotland/Glasgow need not feel humiliated as OP asks, as English cities get those problems at times too.

My d in l works in the centre of town and her work wanted her to work elsewhere during conference involving 3 bus journeys and a 20 min walk. Or £60 each way for a taxi. She finishes at midnight! Haven’t heard what the outcome is yet.

While I agree that during a pandemic is not the ideal time to have a conference of 25,000 people, you really can't have a virtual COP. Really. Has nobody read the BBC article I posted?

This is not a set of people sitting around having staff meetings on Zoom. Some things need face to face discussions and this is one of them.

No it is not a humiliation for Glasgow or indeed Scotland it is however a great source of irritation and inconvenience Cop 26 should be virtual for the sake of the Planet and also to reduce Covid infection opportunity

Happiyogi

Alegrias1, I’d guess that a computer would be a lot cheaper than the travel and accommodation costs for the vast majority of attendees. And could be used for years to come too.

But as the article I linked to says Happiyogi, the internet infrastructure may not be reliable in some of the smaller or poorer countries and often the work can only be done face to face.