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Geoffrey Cox

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Daisymae Wed 10-Nov-21 07:10:47

According to the press Geoffrey Cox has apparently earned close to a million pounds defending the Virgin Islands against a corruption allegation made by the British Government. Have I understood this correctly? If so, where do we go from here?

M0nica Fri 12-Nov-21 17:03:58

vegansrock There are plenty who have supported the government and swallowed their line over every little thing- lying and corruption included. I assume this means the reference to GN members.

Just as many members reject every single thing that the party they do not support does or says and traduces all its members in sweeping statements.

So many pots calling kettles black.

lemongrove Fri 12-Nov-21 16:56:45

Kali2

If people clearly state they support Farage- then is not much doubt, is there?

Farage is a tv presenter not an MP so is irrelevant to this discussion.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 12-Nov-21 16:44:57

Good post lemongrove.

Kali2 Fri 12-Nov-21 16:43:58

If people clearly state they support Farage- then is not much doubt, is there?

lemongrove Fri 12-Nov-21 16:31:58

You don’t know who ‘our right wing posters’ are ( none of you know the politics of more than a very few on GN.)
So this ‘silence gives consent’ view is your own construct MaizieD
There is also a distinct possibility that since the politics threads are dominated by left wing posters ( only a few, but vociferous) that posters stay off them.

All I have seen on here is that posters would like to see changes to what MP’s are entitled to.We can’t castigate any MP
If he/ she acts within the laid down rules.If they don’t then they should take the consequences.

MaizieD Fri 12-Nov-21 16:14:24

lemongrove

I don’t know about a section of government MP’s or citizens but haven’t seen a single GN member condoning corruption on here.If you know differently kali then say who.

I think Kali's probably working with the 'silence gives consent' maxim. There hasn't been much condemnation of the government's corruption from our right wing posters...

What they mostly do is complain about poor Boris getting a bashing...

Implication being that corruption really doesn't bother them too much...

vegansrock Fri 12-Nov-21 16:11:05

There are plenty who have supported the government and swallowed their line over every little thing- lying and corruption included.

lemongrove Fri 12-Nov-21 16:07:43

I don’t know about a section of government MP’s or citizens but haven’t seen a single GN member condoning corruption on here.If you know differently kali then say who.

Kali2 Fri 12-Nov-21 16:03:44

Totally agree, and yet. If a section of his Government, MPs, citizens or GN supporters, condone the corruption, they become a significant part of it.

vegansrock Fri 12-Nov-21 05:34:50

His answer was “the UK is not a corrupt country” - he’s right, it’s not - it’s this government that is corrupt.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 12-Nov-21 02:18:40

A British Prime minister was asked at an international gathering whether the U.K. government is corrupt.

I find that entirely humiliating.

The fact that the question was even asked is quite beyond anything I could have imagined throughout my lifetime.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 12-Nov-21 02:09:23

I wonder if this is another conflict of interest? I’m sure it isn’t but when you consider that the new oil fields and coal mining is to go ahead, it makes you stop and wonder. It doesn’t look good does it?

The Tories have received more than £1.5 million in donations from the energy industry under Johnson.

vegansrock Thu 11-Nov-21 21:47:24

16 of the 17 recent Tory party treasurers, who all donated £3 m to the party have been given peerages. Coincidence? Duncan Smith chaired a committee which recommended a hand sanitiser to be supplied to the NHS whilst getting paid by said firm. Another coincidence?

Lincslass Thu 11-Nov-21 21:34:28

Alegrias1

David Lammy doesn't get anything like £23k a speech.

Is that thread still going about believing everything you're told?

Ha ha.

M0nica Thu 11-Nov-21 21:26:23

Well, Boris and bro are barely on speaking terms and his brother resigned from the government quite early on, Trying to buy his love and loyalty?

Whitewavemark2 Thu 11-Nov-21 20:51:34

And I’m sure this is pure coincidence.

Boris Johnson's brother was made a director of Dyson just two months before the PM ordered 10,000 Dyson ventilators on 26th March 2020 with no tender

Whitewavemark2 Thu 11-Nov-21 20:44:22

Would this be considered a conflict of interest?

“Rugby Tory MP Mark Pawsey, paid £30,000 a year by a packaging lobby group, tried to water down environmental legislation on… wait for it….plastic producers.

Enjoy your time at the trough Mr Pawsey”

Scones Thu 11-Nov-21 20:10:06

Dinamho wrote " He has missed 12 votes in parliament during his recent stint in the Virgin Islands. This has made me wonder - is working for another employer a valid reason for pairing or not voting? Surely it's not just about how many hours an MP spends in their constituency but whether they are representing them when it comes to voting.

My MP didn't vote on the sewage dumping and Owen Patterson issues because he was at COP 26. This was frustrating but totally understandable, but if he'd not voted because he was off earning money for another employer I might have been very fed up.

theworriedwell Thu 11-Nov-21 20:01:23

Whitewavemark2

This should be made against the rules

“Multi millionaire Geoffrey Cox buys a £535k Battersea flat in 2004. We pay his £1,750 a month mortgage repayments. He now rents the property out for about £1,000 a week.
He now lives in another London property whose £1,900 a month rent we are also paying”

How can that be allowed? I can't believe he can do that and can't believe someone with his money would want to be seen as such a scrounger.

M0nica Thu 11-Nov-21 19:37:28

I still think that MPs should be able to keep a toe in the water of their profession. A political career is uncertain and many MPs need to find another way of earning their living within 5 or 10 years of entering parliament and whether they are a QC, doctor, teacher, or plumber, if they haven't kept up todate in their profession during that time, once out of parliament they are unemployable.

What should be limited is the number of hours a session, or week they can devote to outside interests. Most people work a 40 hour week and why should MPs be expected to work longer hours? This means they could reasonably devote 10 hours a week to other pursuits, whether, legal work, plumbing, playing golf or making matchstick models, without it interfering with their Parliamentary work and service to their constituency.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 11-Nov-21 18:46:58

This should be made against the rules

“Multi millionaire Geoffrey Cox buys a £535k Battersea flat in 2004. We pay his £1,750 a month mortgage repayments. He now rents the property out for about £1,000 a week.
He now lives in another London property whose £1,900 a month rent we are also paying”

Kali2 Thu 11-Nov-21 17:35:00

sounds like playschool at its worst!

Alegrias1 Thu 11-Nov-21 17:08:43

Wise words concerning the Master of Diversion.

GillT57 Thu 11-Nov-21 17:05:10

Germanshepherdsmum

FGS Gill nobody is being forced to downsize. A clever little segue eh?

Just following the masters of diversion. It was also intended as a humorous comment, but never mind eh?

theworriedwell Thu 11-Nov-21 16:45:24

lemongrove

It all turns on whether Cox has broken any rules. If he has, then he must expect consequences.
As to how much he has earned, it’s irrelevant.Unless rules on second jobs are changed then it’s entirely legal and above board for any MP to have one.There aren’t ‘set hours’ for constituency and Parliamentary work.Whether there should be is another matter.

He's broken the rules about doing private work from his parliament office.