What is the answer here?

I think the only way to deal with this dreadful situation is to break the business model of the people smugglers, by clearly stating that any immigrants arriving here illegally by boat will be automatically barred from applying for asylum and will be sent home.

Once the message gets through that it’s hopeless, the numbers should stop.

I believe Australia did something similar and solved the problem within a year.

There is already a system in place for genuine asylum seekers but from the pictures of the arrivals it’s clear that the majority are young males.

Sarnia is absolutely correct. This situation can’t be allowed to continue.

Mollygo

Seriously-how do they decide if e.g. two pregnant women or two 19 year old boys arrive all telling them same (appalling) story but one of each or one pair or 3/4 are genuine, how is the decision made?
They can tell them apart? How? Do they have stickers saying genuine or do only they genuine ones have real passports. I don’t know, which is why I’m asking.

Your question mollygo, was how do they decide who has a right to be here if they all arrive in the same boat?

It doesn't matter how they arrive. Some of then will arrive with all the paperwork they need to prove who they are and what their claim is based on. Some of them will arrive with nothing but the clothes they stand up in.

I'm not an immigration officer but I don't expect they they make the decision on the spot, as soon as the people step off the boat. Or even a week later. I expect that the process for deciding if someone has the right to stay here takes weeks, or even months. Maybe even years. But in that time we have to treat them like human beings, with dignity.

There are going to be more and more people arriving in this country as time goes on, that will be one of the consequences of climate change. We can rail against the French, or whoever, and try to push the people back to the continent, and pretend they are somebody else's responsibility, but that's not true, If they get here, they are our responsibility, and we should be taking that seriously.

If the life boat staff are getting abuse for saving migrants it's not surprising they are taking time off.

I think you may have misunderstood MerylStreep's post, Redhead.

The lifeboat crews are not having time off rescuing people because of the abuse they are getting from the public for rescuing migrants. They're tougher than that.

Because they are having to go out so often to rescue migrants, as well as other rescues, they are having to take even more time off work.
As they're all volunteers, they are in paid employment and when the call comes, off they go.

I think that's what is meant.

I meant migrants posted before proofing.

I watched a documentary about the lifeboats last week. The staff were getting grief from the public because they rescued migrants from a dinghy.
It was upsetting for the lifeboat staff they just want to save lives. These wonderful volunteers do a brave and daring job unpaid. With no support from the government who are burying their heads in the sand. If the life boat staff are getting abuse for saving migrants it's not surprising they are taking time off. It was sad to see the immigrants there were little children amongst them. It was an upsetting programme to watch and its a situation that is not going away.

Seriously-how do they decide if e.g. two pregnant women or two 19 year old boys arrive all telling them same (appalling) story but one of each or one pair or 3/4 are genuine, how is the decision made?
They can tell them apart? How? Do they have stickers saying genuine or do only they genuine ones have real passports. I don’t know, which is why I’m asking.

The same way they do now. But quicker.

They can tell them apart, you know.

Good answer, but how do they decide who has a right to be here when they’ve all arrived in the same boat?

The answer. Well, facts first.

Migrant figures for this year aren’t available yet. What I think you mean is that 3 times as many desperate people have crossed the channel compared with last year.

Secondly, there is no evidence whatsoever that they are bringing our infrastructure to its knees, although its handy for the powers-that-be who can’t run the country properly to blame it on the mythical migrants.

So, the answer? Treat the people who arrive by boat like human beings, deal with their asylum and migration claims quickly, send the people who have no right to be here back, say “Welcome “ to the ones who have a right to be here and recognise that the problems in this country right now are not caused by a few thousand desperate people.

I can’t see an answer. All I do know is, through a friend with connections in Dover harbour that employers of the lifeboat crews are getting a tad miffed at the amount of time crew members are taking off work.
A very contentious issue, I know, but it’s what’s being said.

I dont think there is one. I foresaw this happening to be honest.