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Stand off drowning migrants and report – or face prosecution, sailors warned

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GagaJo Wed 24-Nov-21 14:48:42

I can hardly believe what I'm reading. Sailors being told to let people drown.

The Royal Yacht Association (RYA) has warned its members against rescuing migrants at sea amid fears they could be prosecuted and jailed for people smuggling.

The RYA has advised sailors to “stand off and report” migrants rather than rescue them in face of draft laws that would prosecute them if they saved asylum seekers from drowning and brought them ashore.

It has joined with MPs in opposing the laws, which also criminalise migrant rescue missions in the Channel by Royal National Lifeboat Institute (RNLI) crews if they bring them to shore.

uk.news.yahoo.com/leave-drowning-migrants-die-face-175734208.html

Calistemon Sat 04-Dec-21 11:05:17

Expletive deleted, growstuff!!

I hope none of these hackers ever need rescuing.

growstuff Sat 04-Dec-21 04:20:10

Unfortunately, you might not be able to use the RNLI website for a while:

www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/03/rnli-takes-down-its-website-after-suspected-hacking-attempt

growstuff Sat 04-Dec-21 04:20:09

Unfortunately, you might not be able to use the RNLI website for a while:

www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/03/rnli-takes-down-its-website-after-suspected-hacking-attempt

Calistemon Fri 03-Dec-21 23:15:41

I have friends who organise fundraisers for the RNLI even though they are both in their eighties.

We always support them and the RNLI but, unfortunately, they have not been able to hold events since Covid arrived so donations will be much needed.

Christmas cards, calendars, gifts etc are available online too.
shop.rnli.org/

lemongrove Fri 03-Dec-21 22:06:26

GrannyGravy13

There are far more good people in the U.K. (and the world) than those with bad intentions. It’s just unfortunate that bad/controversial deeds garner news inches/minutes.

In this instance just a few people shouting things at the crew it’s alleged, not a mass protest.
Sure, they are unkind idiots to do it, but we are a population of so many millions it has to be remembered.

growstuff Fri 03-Dec-21 21:56:20

varian

It is utterly amazing that the RNLI are entirely supported by charity.

They are our fourth emergency service after police, fire and ambulance and like them they should be funded by the taxpayer.

The RNLI prefers to be a charity rather than funded by the government because it means that it isn't subject to the same kind of cuts as other emergency services.

varian Fri 03-Dec-21 19:36:34

It is utterly amazing that the RNLI are entirely supported by charity.

They are our fourth emergency service after police, fire and ambulance and like them they should be funded by the taxpayer.

Kali2 Fri 03-Dec-21 10:27:11

Don't forget to make a Donation to show your support.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 03-Dec-21 08:14:47

Not everyone is anti-asylum seeker. Gives me hope

RNLI
@RNLI
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Once again, we've been truly moved this week by your messages of kindness and generous donations in support of our lifesaving work in the Channel – thank you so much

Iam64 Wed 01-Dec-21 12:07:20

I agree white wave

Whitewavemark2 Wed 01-Dec-21 11:52:56

The black shirts are back. This is the atmosphere being created by Patel, that “allows” this to happen in the U.K. 2021

GillT57 Wed 01-Dec-21 11:48:06

GrannyGravy13

There are far more good people in the U.K. (and the world) than those with bad intentions. It’s just unfortunate that bad/controversial deeds garner news inches/minutes.

I do hope so, and cling on to that belief because the alternative is too awful to contemplate. Maybe it is just as our grandparents always said 'empty vessels make the most noise'.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 01-Dec-21 09:55:39

There are far more good people in the U.K. (and the world) than those with bad intentions. It’s just unfortunate that bad/controversial deeds garner news inches/minutes.

Iam64 Wed 01-Dec-21 09:35:57

Thanks Whitewave, I’ll donate again.
We had the EDL brought to our town in coaches to try and stir up racism as we have a large Pakistani Muslim population. They got no support.
I wonder if that’s an issue in these protests, racists shipped in?

Whitewavemark2 Wed 01-Dec-21 09:18:11

I’ve just donated more to the RNLI. They need all the help they can get.

Article about residents in Dungeness where the poor folk largely land.

The residents say that what strikes them is that those families arrive with nothing. It is devastating to see them. Frequently soaked through and utterly exhausted. The kindness of the RNLI is so uplifting, showing what so many in the U.K. have always stood for.

Iam64 Wed 01-Dec-21 09:10:09

Maw, I read about this earlier. I’m ashamed, angry and appalled about this behaviour.
In the mid 19th century, 90,000 people arrived in Liverpool to escape the famine in Ireland. Those children in 1938 escaping certain death in the Holocaust. Our country adds to the instability in the Middle East and some people want other people to drown in the channel?

MayBeMaw Wed 01-Dec-21 07:46:37

I hope some people are proud of themselves
I have just read how an RNLI lifeboat faced a blockade by protesters, allegedly including fishermen, angry about the rescue of migrants from the Channel.
Witnesses claimed the group lined up in front of the boat on Hastings beach, shouting abuse at the crew, as the lifeboat was launched.
RNLI crew members managed to avoid the attempted blockade and direct the lifeboat into the water.
The incident took place on Nov 20, just days before 27 people, including a pregnant woman, died when their dinghy sank seven miles off Calais in the biggest loss of life since the start of the crisis.

Alegrias1 Tue 30-Nov-21 14:45:26

well while we're waiting...

France’s European affairs minister, Clément Beaune, also hit back at the UK, accusing it of having “an economic model of, sometimes, quasi-modern slavery” that he said encouraged desperate people to attempt perilous Channel crossings.

“We’re asking the British to change their [legal] framework,” Beaune told France Inter. He said exploitation of illegal workers was “more prevalent in the UK because there are fewer checks” and the UK needed “more humane” labour market regulation to discourage migrants.

Paradise, eh?

Alegrias1 Tue 30-Nov-21 14:33:29

Well I've just been trying to understand this.

First question: Do you mean me?

And if so, are you seriously telling me not to comment?

halfpint1 Tue 30-Nov-21 14:29:47

Pantglas2

And the French police at Wimeraux stand watching desperate migrants risk their lives in boarding overflowing dodgy inflatables- wonder why the EU don’t put a stop to it...oh wait!

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/nov/29/channel-crossings-are-an-english-issue-says-french-minister

From my own experience, in France getting employment
is only possible if you are 'in the system' i.e. have the equivalent of a N.I. number and some qualification on paper or training for the job.
Any employer found with people working 'on the black' faces a heavy fine and or imprisonment.
Any wonder Britain looks like paradise?
The Guardian article explains it well.

nb Alegria , no comment thankyou

westendgirl Tue 30-Nov-21 14:00:18

I do not like this far right "we are an island attitude. "
I really do believe that all countries need other countries and that we should be open , work together and confound the racist element in our society . I want my grandchildren to be able to continue having friends of every race , colour and creed.Surely that is the way forward. We too should be holding out hands to the less fortunate countries, supporting them . Words like those spoken in Hastings send shivers down my spine, as do some of the comments ~I have read here.

GillT57 Tue 30-Nov-21 13:53:02

Oh Kali2 that is dreadful, just what is happening to this country?

Kali2 Tue 30-Nov-21 13:51:01

When I read this, I felt sick to my stomach. And I did wonder, just could not help it - would some of the grannies here do this? Would they? Could they?

And I felt sicker ...

vegansrock Tue 30-Nov-21 13:26:32

westendgirl be careful- someone will come along and tell you to go and live somewhere else - although the freedom to go and live in 27 other countries has been taken from us. I would hate to live in a mono cultural country where only one language was spoken, where you could only have fish and chip takeaways. I loved the fact that Britain had become so much more open and multicultural. I too dislike intensely some aspects of narrow minded Ingerland.

westendgirl Tue 30-Nov-21 12:40:10

What sort of a country are we becoming ?Is it too many reading the gutter press stirring up articles?How does this sort of thing make you feel ?
I feel sick and do not want to be here.