Vince Cable Pensioners should go back to work

The Voluntary Sector would grind to a halt if all the pensioners want back to work.
Who would take care of disabled and vulnerable relatives also so many look after children.
I watched it and it made to so mad.
Who does he thinks paid taxes for his health care ,education etc .
Us we paid with our taxes not the rich

Re: Mark Ryan Parsons (or whatever his name is), (I do not watch the apprentice or any other reality programs) but are his parents still getting child benefits, or other such benefits for which the older generation bought for him and siblings if any?

growstuff

Calistemon Did Vince Cable claim that people are lazy?

As far as I can tell, it was the article in the Independent, written by Cable, which was behind the slot on GMB.

He was reporting a conference and giving his own views, which, as he himself states, could be seem as provocative. I can't see that he says people are lazy.

Calistemon Did Vince Cable claim that people are lazy?

Kc55

I don't know many who worked in care who are still fit to work after 65. it's incredibly physical and usually involves shifts which can result in sleep problems, eating difficulties. Are our labourers, refuse workers and others who work all winds and weathers still expected to be working at 70? I had a Saturday and holiday jobs from the age of 14 as did all of my friends. Sadly many of those jobs don't seem to be as available as they were and many teenagers don't seem to work as much as we did. There's no easy answer but working people to death probably isn't it.

I am nearly 69 and still working in Care albeit part-time

For many older people if they took up paid work this would result in younger family members giving up work as who would look after the GC for free. Childcare even with all the financial allowances can, for some be extortionate and doesn't always cover the times/ days needed by many parents. Wonder what job the young man will be doing until he drops at say 90 years of age, folk are living longer and longer.

Cocky little sod he will be old sooner or later I hope he remembers his offence comments then

I do a few hours here and there at the local school for which I am paid a very small amount, and I also do some volunteer work. I'm 74 and fit but I'm not going to work full time till I die. That would be ridiculous after working for over forty years and bringing up two children and looking after two grandchildren.

I don't know many who worked in care who are still fit to work after 65. it's incredibly physical and usually involves shifts which can result in sleep problems, eating difficulties. Are our labourers, refuse workers and others who work all winds and weathers still expected to be working at 70? I had a Saturday and holiday jobs from the age of 14 as did all of my friends. Sadly many of those jobs don't seem to be as available as they were and many teenagers don't seem to work as much as we did. There's no easy answer but working people to death probably isn't it.

I’m 68 and happily working part time, at home, doing something I enjoy. Going “out” to work full time would kill me off. Maybe that’s what they want?

Calistemon

It's yesterday's paper telling yesterday's news, greenlady102

In fact, yesterday's TV I think.

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We pensioners do not need to defend ourselves for being out of the workforce. Ryan-Mark Parsons is one of those who make a career out of being controversial and provoking angry reactions. Another former Apprentice candidate (2007), Katie Hopkins, is in the same mould. She became a right-wing commentator and is often in the news for her preposterous statements and behaviour. These people are best ignored.

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Perhaps if older workers were allowed a siesta at work it might be possible, after all, some jobs allow it:

I too saw this clip, I’m almost 63 still working from home and saw this clip in an early lunchtime. I have brought up four children and brought up four children and aside from very short periods of time have worked full time. I’m also a primary care for my elderly disabled Mum ! And to top it all a “waspi” I’ll be honest I don’t agree with Mr Cable and whilst it’s fine to have the choice, many of us have health condition. I agree with Nina and I actually feel the young man in question needs a good slap !

Why pick on those who have earned their pensions? Why not tackle those who have not done a day's work and survive on benefits, surely they are the ones who should be working!!

Fritherdog“ and was glad to leave behind all the nonsense and paperwork that took us away from the important people -”

Ain’t that the truth ! Exactly the same in teaching .

that is disgusting!!! We have paid in all our working life on the understanding that we will get a pension so we should be able to retire when we like, Vince is a Lib Dem and like their bedfellows Tories hates giving money to what they see as ordinary people, they like spending big money on private companies like Serco, even though our pension is not a benefit but something we've paid for

Personally, I think Vince Cable raises some valid issues (forget the pipsqueak from The Apprentice).

I'm trying to forget him, growstuff but his face has become like an earworm
Uuuurgh!

I don't know what kind of work you did, but there are probably opportunities somewhere for you to contribute the knowledge and skills you acquired in a limited capacity, without having to go out to work every day.

There may be but the point I was trying to make is that, if someone wants to retire at retirement age, their skills will be much welcomed in other voluntary areas, they may want to further their knowledge by joining or running groups such as U3A etc.

Or providing childcare so that their children can work, pay their bills, build their careers.

Some may still want to work for various reasons but no-on should feel lazy for retiring at the State Pension age, should they? Particularly if they have worked in a physically demanding or stressful job.

They are not being lazy! which is what was being claimed by these two.

Their skills and expertise are not being wasted and they shouldn't have to feel at all guilty.

If we went back to work we would be accused of taking young people's jobs. We can't win.

I would go back to work as a “consultant” to mentor the more inexperienced staff who could do with a guide. I was a midwife for 30 odd years and was glad to leave behind all the nonsense and paperwork that took us away from the important people -the families we cared for- it seemed that keeping the trust happy was more important than the women. I would be happy to help, but the NHS do not appreciate experience, and I am sure many other companies are the same.

It's yesterday's paper telling yesterday's news, greenlady102

In fact, yesterday's TV I think.

Its a wind up...its a saturday and a slow news day so lets get people on and have an argument.

I'm certainly still working full-time, although I'm not 60 yet. I also now look after my DGS full-time, since I work from home.

I'd like to see Vince Cable teach 'challenging' groups of students online while also dealing with a toddler, toileting, entertaining, feeding etc.

growstuff, it is isn't it? I suppose because the subject is pertinent to most of us, but not a party political topic. It is a pity it cannot happen more.