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Rees Mogg. Words almost fail me.

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Lucca Fri 07-Jan-22 17:05:10

Could this man be any more supercilious, smug, self satisfied?

How can it be acceptable to make light of the plight of refugees ?

GillT57 Fri 07-Jan-22 22:35:35

Supercilious git. And all this 17th century hogwash is fake. His father worked for a living so going by our previous conversations re class he is not upper class or gentry or whatever fakery he puts out. The big estate belongs to his wife's family.

Zoejory Fri 07-Jan-22 22:40:39

Which big estate? Jacob's parents purchased Ston Easton Park which is not too shabby. To say the least.

He was brought up by Nanny, who he still has, amazingly.

And of course he went to Eton.

As I've mentioned on previous threads I am no fan of the class system. But hazarding a guess I'd probably put him as upper.

He's an interesting character. Not sure why he's in politics.

MissAdventure Fri 07-Jan-22 23:10:23

Nanny must be very proud to have raised such a pleasant chap.

Calistemon Fri 07-Jan-22 23:19:54

GillT57

Supercilious git. And all this 17th century hogwash is fake. His father worked for a living so going by our previous conversations re class he is not upper class or gentry or whatever fakery he puts out. The big estate belongs to his wife's family.

His father was quite posh too; Clifton College, Charterhouse, Oxford, National Service (a Sergeant no less ?!), then Baro.

However, William bought Ston Easton Park, he didn't inherit it, Zoejory, that makes all the difference.
He probably had to buy his own furniture too.

Calistemon Fri 07-Jan-22 23:20:15

Baro?

Baron

love0c Sat 08-Jan-22 09:23:42

Why can't people read between the lines?
The denotative meaning is the concrete or literal meaning, whilst the connotative meaning is the associated or figurative meaning. An inability to read between the lines is generally evidence that the reader is unable to apprehend any connotative meaning beyond the literal.

Alegrias1 Sat 08-Jan-22 09:25:40

And an ability to make jokes about the French which rely on stereotypes of garlic eating is general evidence that the speaker is an idiot.

Lucca Sat 08-Jan-22 09:25:42

love0c

Why can't people read between the lines?
The denotative meaning is the concrete or literal meaning, whilst the connotative meaning is the associated or figurative meaning. An inability to read between the lines is generally evidence that the reader is unable to apprehend any connotative meaning beyond the literal.

Sorry what does all that mean ?

Whitewavemark2 Sat 08-Jan-22 09:26:09

Gosh, who knew???

Alegrias1 Sat 08-Jan-22 09:27:45

Sorry Lucca, you and I are obviously just drones with no conception of the humour that a public school/Oxbridge education confers, clearly one that excuses you from being objectionable on the grounds that you are educated and the rest of us should just defer.

Lucca Sat 08-Jan-22 09:28:13

Alegrias1

And an ability to make jokes about the French which rely on stereotypes of garlic eating is general evidence that the speaker is an idiot.

Not to mention the inappropriateness of this kind of “quip” when talking about refugees.

I look forward to Lov0c explaining what their post meant for those of us clearly too thick to understand.

Curlywhirly Sat 08-Jan-22 09:35:52

love0c

Why can't people read between the lines?
The denotative meaning is the concrete or literal meaning, whilst the connotative meaning is the associated or figurative meaning. An inability to read between the lines is generally evidence that the reader is unable to apprehend any connotative meaning beyond the literal.

Is that a Rees Mogg quote by any chance?

That picture of him lounging on the benches during a debate looking sooo bored just sums him up - contemptuous and just so above it all. A thoroughly unpleasant man without any redeeming features who gives Conservatives a bad name.

NfkDumpling Sat 08-Jan-22 09:36:11

He does seem to come from another planet. If, like me, he had a strong garlic intolerance, he would know that English restaurants probably use as much if not more garlic in their cooking than the French. And that it is very, very difficult to find any savoury ready meal (apart from fish and chips) which does not contain the stuff.

honeyrose Sat 08-Jan-22 09:50:50

Pompous ass.

Lucca Sat 08-Jan-22 09:54:34

Oh look….here is that thing LoveOC said……. Incomplete as I’m not going to upgrade to quota…

Lucca Sat 08-Jan-22 09:54:56

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love0c Sat 08-Jan-22 10:03:33

Curly Whirly dictionary definition. I have always used a dictionary and as far as I am aware they are still used and indeed 'accepted'.

love0c Sat 08-Jan-22 10:05:28

Just to add yes he is an odious man IMO but that should be irrelevant.

Parsley3 Sat 08-Jan-22 10:05:40

love0c

Why can't people read between the lines?
The denotative meaning is the concrete or literal meaning, whilst the connotative meaning is the associated or figurative meaning. An inability to read between the lines is generally evidence that the reader is unable to apprehend any connotative meaning beyond the literal.

Every day is a school day but JRM is still an ar##.

Rosie51 Sat 08-Jan-22 10:05:45

love0c

Why can't people read between the lines?
The denotative meaning is the concrete or literal meaning, whilst the connotative meaning is the associated or figurative meaning. An inability to read between the lines is generally evidence that the reader is unable to apprehend any connotative meaning beyond the literal.

Lucca and Alegrias1 I'm obviously thick as well, what can you expect from a state education, but do you really apprehend any connotative meaning beyond the literal. ? Surely you comprehend ?

Rosie51 Sat 08-Jan-22 10:08:01

Just used a dictionary and apprehend can be used that way, but why not use comprehend which is more easily understood by most?

Chestnut Sat 08-Jan-22 10:15:48

Has anyone noticed what else he has been up to lately?
Quote:
He lobbied Boris and Rishi to scrap the unpalatable £12 billion, 1.25 per cent National Insurance increase, due to kick in this April, just as inflation is predicted to soar a further two per cent. That increase is going to cost middle-income earners around £300 a year, according to the Resolution Foundation.
The unexpected tax was meant to be for controversial social care reform but will first be used to help fund the post-Covid health service catch-up, with many government sources openly fearing the cash will forever be funnelled into the NHS blackhole.
He then went on to suggest that much of the money could be saved if there was a wholescale cull of the lazy civil servants who have used the pandemic to ‘work from home’ and avoid Whitehall at all costs, when, in fact, they’ve been working out on their expensive Peloton bikes and watching episodes of Loose Women in their pants on the sofa.

Lucca Sat 08-Jan-22 10:16:55

LoveOc you have still not explained what you meant .

Zoejory Sat 08-Jan-22 10:17:06

I had to laugh at this Instagram or Tweet whatever one calls it

No idea who votes for him. He seems to wander around in an airy way with no grip upon reality

Zoejory Sat 08-Jan-22 10:18:12

Sadly the words are missing on that photo ... I think we'll take our business elsewhere or words to that effect.

Anyway, as you were.