Is Boris Johnson revealing who he really is?

The whole thing is becoming farcical.

Johnson is waiting for the outcome of the investigation to ascertain whether he attended the party.

As are a number of other MPs and ministers.

Lucca

GillT57

Better angry lemongrove than being smugly responsible for this mess, and mess it is. You obviously consider me predictable, I prefer principled. You don't need to be left leaning to be disgusted by the lies, corruption and downright sneering disrespect shown by this shower. Many decent people, lifetime Tory voters, feel as I do, if you don't that is for you to deal with, my conscience is clear.

Good post.

Yes, thank you.

GillT57

Better angry lemongrove than being smugly responsible for this mess, and mess it is. You obviously consider me predictable, I prefer principled. You don't need to be left leaning to be disgusted by the lies, corruption and downright sneering disrespect shown by this shower. Many decent people, lifetime Tory voters, feel as I do, if you don't that is for you to deal with, my conscience is clear.

Good post.

GillT57

Better angry lemongrove than being smugly responsible for this mess, and mess it is. You obviously consider me predictable, I prefer principled. You don't need to be left leaning to be disgusted by the lies, corruption and downright sneering disrespect shown by this shower. Many decent people, lifetime Tory voters, feel as I do, if you don't that is for you to deal with, my conscience is clear.

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Better angry lemongrove than being smugly responsible for this mess, and mess it is. You obviously consider me predictable, I prefer principled. You don't need to be left leaning to be disgusted by the lies, corruption and downright sneering disrespect shown by this shower. Many decent people, lifetime Tory voters, feel as I do, if you don't that is for you to deal with, my conscience is clear.

Not any more lemongrove.
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Kali2

Nick Ferrari on LBC

^'It seems he's so bent he can't lie straight in bed': Nick Ferrari savages PM over parties''^

And Nick is very right wing.
I think that the real momentum is happening now

That’s a Remainer belief Casdon

For ‘glory’ read: Government Lies Outwitted & Robbed You.

GillT57

^But when it comes to Brexit, no, if you voted for this s**tshow and the charlatan who promised to get it done, then you are to blame for helping ruin this country. A bit of contrition would go a long way^. I heartily agree with this sentiment. I am one of the many who was told time after time after time that I need to accept the 'will of the people', to 'get over it', to stop going over this and just accept it, and you know what? I will not, those of you who voted for this, those of you who sneered and belittled those of us who voted Remain, who told us we were unpatriotic, well you can own this man, you put him there, not me. THIS IS YOUR FAULT

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Oh Gill your best angriest post ever.
Look, the over 17 million voters who voted to leave the EU did not do that simply to annoy you, they were offered the vote and they took it. Democracy in action.
Johnson won’t be PM forever, in fact he may well be out by Easter.
He was the only hope to complete the Brexit process, that’s his
One real abiding glory ( although I don’t think he did too badly with the Covid crisis either.) No contrition from me that’s for sure!
A better PM will be along shortly taking us to the next GE in a couple of years.

MaizieD
Wouldn't it be a good idea if Keir Starmer pointed out the aims of the ERG to the people in the red wall seats.?

growstuff yes, I suppose you are right about people wanting to vote for UKIP, but we have left the EU now, surely Keir Starmer could point out that the Tories have served their purpose, and not let the Tories get away with their "levelling up" waffle.

Nick Ferrari on LBC

'It seems he's so bent he can't lie straight in bed': Nick Ferrari savages PM over parties''

Ilovecheese

Do you think that the people who voted for Johnson in the so called "red wall" seats, who gave the Conservatives their big majority, would be likely to vote for a party dominated by the ERG type people?
If they had until then voted Labour, they are surely not of the sort of mind set that the ERG appeals to?

I think that they wouldn't realise just what the ERG represents. I'm sure most of the red wall voters would be horrified at their plans for getting rid of things like the minimum wage, statutory sick pay, holiday entitlement etc. Or lower benefits.. That's the EU 'red tape the ERG want to get rid of. But the ERG weren't going to let them know that..

Sadly I don’t think ours steps out of line unfortunately, hence the reason I wrote. To let him know we do not all agree with the party line.
More than happy to congratulate /thank when or if appropriate.
It’s easy to contact a MP, google and email pops up.

silverlining48

I didn’t vote for him but wrote to my MP today. Assume he doesn’t know if I did or didn’t, not that it matters.
I am not an angry person but have been feeling unusually angry lately, so thought I would let him know that one is not amused.

We all need to do that. And also thank MP’s that do behave honourably even if we aren’t in their constituency. They don’t have to reply but quite often do and are grateful for some support, especially if they are breaking the party whip.

I didn’t vote for him but wrote to my MP today. Assume he doesn’t know if I did or didn’t, not that it matters.
I am not an angry person but have been feeling unusually angry lately, so thought I would let him know that one is not amused.

Ilovecheese

Do you think that the people who voted for Johnson in the so called "red wall" seats, who gave the Conservatives their big majority, would be likely to vote for a party dominated by the ERG type people?
If they had until then voted Labour, they are surely not of the sort of mind set that the ERG appeals to?

I'm not so sure. Some of the new "red wall" MPs are members of the ERG or support it. Some of the new Tory voters would have voted UKIP, if they'd been given the choice.

Yes, conributed again to the Good Law Society yesterday.

Is there any Law that says you are not allowed to be a member of two parties. I have supported both the Lib Dems and Labour in the Past- and would like to rejoin Labour, without giving up support to Lib Dems.

FannyCornforth

I joined The Labour Party today!
Just wanted to share.
I used to be totally non partisan; I have voted Labour, Lib Dem, Green and Conservative (once, for Mrs May, when no one else did) in the past.

I rejoined yesterday. Have been meaning to do so for ages without getting round to it. This was the final shove that I needed. DH has rejoined the LibDems, too. I must also give some money to the Good Law Society, too. Democracy is at stake here.

Do you think that the people who voted for Johnson in the so called "red wall" seats, who gave the Conservatives their big majority, would be likely to vote for a party dominated by the ERG type people?
If they had until then voted Labour, they are surely not of the sort of mind set that the ERG appeals to?

But when it comes to Brexit, no, if you voted for this s**tshow and the charlatan who promised to get it done, then you are to blame for helping ruin this country. A bit of contrition would go a long way. I heartily agree with this sentiment. I am one of the many who was told time after time after time that I need to accept the 'will of the people', to 'get over it', to stop going over this and just accept it, and you know what? I will not, those of you who voted for this, those of you who sneered and belittled those of us who voted Remain, who told us we were unpatriotic, well you can own this man, you put him there, not me. THIS IS YOUR FAULT

Sorry, MayBee70, missed out an e.

What worries me (and I know others have said the same already) is what comes next. Johnson is the devil we know, but there are some sinister people, some with more intelligence - and therefore more dangerous - in the background. Michael Gove (who is trying to appear concerned about cladding and all smiley just now) for one. Liz Truss, Rishi Sunak, etc. Oh dear.

As MayBe70 says, the good possibilities have all been chased out.

I joined The Labour Party today!
Just wanted to share.
I used to be totally non partisan; I have voted Labour, Lib Dem, Green and Conservative (once, for Mrs May, when no one else did) in the past.

Whitewavemark2

Can those bills be repealed when we have a different government?

I don’t see why not?

TBH, I don't know how easy it would be.

Certainly no parliament can bind another.