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Russian massing on the Ukrainian border

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maddyone Fri 21-Jan-22 11:01:31

Sorry Ilovecheese typo.

maddyone Fri 21-Jan-22 10:59:48

I agree Ilove geese, I most certainly do not want the UK to be dragged into it. We’re barely out of Afghanistan and now we’re sending troops to Estonia, Poland, and even a few into Ukraine apparently. This really should be front page news, and the first item on every news bulletin in my opinion. Instead we’ve got partygate, partygate, partygate non stop.

Callistemon21 Fri 21-Jan-22 10:59:33

I don't think the UK government has even noticed

Well, of course they have otherwise we wouldn't be there, not in any defence capacity of course, but training.

I hope this doesn't escalate but it's not new. Russia does not want Ukraine to become European as it would see it as a threat.

I remember Hungary, and the Prague Spring. I remember too and of course Hungary a a member of the EU now.

Pepper59 Fri 21-Jan-22 10:57:50

Ilove Cheeses- stay out of it? Seriously? Do you think President Putin will give us the choice? The amount of Russian aircraft and submarines our forces keep finding off our coastlines and in our airspace. Yeah, we can keep out of it.

Pepper59 Fri 21-Jan-22 10:54:41

Don't expect the EU to do anything, the silence has been deafening. I don't think the UK government has even noticed. Yes, it's worrying but apart from someone waking up the PM and the rest of them, nothing can be done. Germany has sent a minister out to see what can be done. That's all I know. The Ukrainian Ambassador was on television recently, he's the only politician that seems worried. What's the point in us worrying about it? Except as in that famous quote from Game of Thrones, men go to war while politicians talk ( don't know if thats it exact) but very true. Compared to President Putin, our PM seems to be dozing.

eazybee Fri 21-Jan-22 10:52:43

An article about Russia and Ukraine was number 53 in my online Telegraph; the first five articles concerned Party gate; the BBC seem to make it their lead story every night.
One morning we shall wake up to hear the tanks have rolled in, possibly Ukraine and very likely elsewhere as well.
I remember Hungary, and the Prague Spring.

Ilovecheese Fri 21-Jan-22 10:51:11

I think we should stay out of it. Let's not be dragged into another American adventure.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 21-Jan-22 10:48:48

Callistemon2 sorry by the time I typed my post (have sleeping GC on my lap) I see you have posted similar

GrannyGravy13 Fri 21-Jan-22 10:46:27

The U.K. flights to supply arms to Ukraine did not fly in German Airspace as Germany did not want to do anything to jeopardise their gas pipeline from Russia.

It is also being reported that a small number of U.K. troops have been deployed also.

It’s time the U.K. media stopped focusing on partygate and reported on other things.

maddyone Fri 21-Jan-22 10:43:53

Callistemon21

What worries me more, I think, is that the EU has been a party to much of this (no pun intended) but is now ignoring the threat apart from warning Russia.

British troops and anti-tank weapons have been sent to Ukraine, training their troops.

We only hear what the media want us to hear ie partygate, Cummingsville.

Indeed. We are being fed partygate morning, noon, and night, and I’m fed up of hearing about it. It is not the most impossible thing in the news at the moment, Ukraine is the most important thing. It is potentially catastrophic for the world.

Kali2 Fri 21-Jan-22 10:41:15

The EU has been a party to much of this ?!?

What do you mean. Can you explain this statement, please.

Callistemon21 Fri 21-Jan-22 10:40:15

Kali2

It is massively worrying. And the fact that the UK, now totally isolated from its European Allies and partners, is now sending arm to Ukraine- is beyond dangerous.

The EU?

Having caused this they now pull back!

Callistemon21 Fri 21-Jan-22 10:39:09

What worries me more, I think, is that the EU has been a party to much of this (no pun intended) but is now ignoring the threat apart from warning Russia.

British troops and anti-tank weapons have been sent to Ukraine, training their troops.

We only hear what the media want us to hear ie partygate, Cummingsville.

Kali2 Fri 21-Jan-22 10:35:28

It is massively worrying. And the fact that the UK, now totally isolated from its European Allies and partners, is now sending arm to Ukraine- is beyond dangerous.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 21-Jan-22 10:35:07

Yes I have - with increasing alarm.

Grandmabatty Fri 21-Jan-22 10:34:59

I think the government is waiting for Sue Grey

Galaxy Fri 21-Jan-22 10:33:59

Yes I have noticed. I can think of more than one thing at once though, I am hoping the government has the ability to do the same but there may be no guarantee of that.

Daisymae Fri 21-Jan-22 10:30:08

So while our government is debating on what constitutes a party, how many parties may have been held a couple of years ago, there's a terrible threat to world peace going on at the edge of Europe. Anybody else noticed?