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Why has partygate appeared to unite the country?

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MaizieD Fri 21-Jan-22 16:25:58

A thoughtful blogpost this morning from Chris Grey who suggests the answer to the question some are asking on this forum. 'Why is everyone up in arms about partygate when there are far more serious issues to worry about?

Grey sets out the populist ideas which won Brexit and this government's majority, the disdain for 'the Elite', which is, he suggests ..which, ..., is associated with the supposedly finger-wagging, won’t let us say what really think, prissy, moralistic, do-gooders. The Human Rights Brigade. The PC Brigade. The girly swots. The experts. The bleeding-heart liberals. More recently, the Woke police..

‘taking back control’ was a doubly potent slogan. It was about freedom from EU control, but also freedom from the control of them – who, not coincidentally, were opposed to Brexit – freedom to ‘talk about immigration’, freedom to celebrate Christmas not ‘Winterval’, freedom to fly the St George Flag and the Union Jack without being sneered at. In this last way it was, of course, partly about nationalism – about ‘us’ as a nation – but also about internal divisions – about ‘us’ versus ‘them’, those who for so long had ruled over us but were now exposed as traitors and saboteurs, as anti-British Elite Remainers .

Johnson and Cummings were the ultimate 'anti rules' exponents

So Brexit provided an umbrella that could link all sorts of disparate ideologies and resentments, the spines of which were ‘freedom from the rules’. Almost all the high-profile fights of the post-referendum period were framed by this. These ranged from the Miller case on Parliamentary approval for triggering Article 50 to the row over Bercow’s “bombshell” ruling that Parliament couldn’t vote twice on the same motion (Theresa May’s Withdrawal Agreement), through to the court cases over prorogation. They were all battles over whether ‘the rules’ (laws, conventions) had to be followed or whether ‘the will of the people’ trumped such niceties.

...when the coronavirus pandemic arrived, ...Johnson was suddenly confronted by a situation which required the imposition of draconian rules and restrictions on everyday life that were unprecedented in peacetime. Small wonder that he did so belatedly, reluctantly, and with a nod and a wink that the rules were there to be broken.

But here the populism that had delivered Brexit took an unexpected turn. Because what was revealed were two diametrically different responses to the Covid rules from Brexit supporters. Some of the most high-profile of them became, as discussed in another post on this blog – lockdown sceptics, insisting that no free-born Englishman could submit to the yoke of Whitehall tyranny, with ERG membership closely overlapping the new ‘Covid Recovery Group’. Few could doubt that, had he not been in power, Johnson would have been amongst them. Yet amongst plenty of rank-and-file leave voters an entirely different version of cultural identity held sway, and one they shared with plenty of remainers.

This was the traditional image of the British – and for once it was the British, not just the English - as a ‘naturally’ law-abiding people of orderly queues, fair play, pulling together for the common good, and ‘all in it together’. A people who, in fact, did not disdain but played by the rules. Indeed Johnson himself, with his constant invocations of Second World War unity, mobilised exactly this cultural theme, and it proved to be remarkably powerful. Most people have followed the rules, despite the hardship, and in some cases tragedy, that entailed.

So, it was the pervasive conception of their British character, as detailed in the above paragraph (and of which we have always seemed to be proud) , which made breaches of the covid rules unforgiveable to a large part of the British people

chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2022/

Discuss... grin

(Chris's weekly blog is always detailed and excellent )

Doodledog Fri 21-Jan-22 16:39:36

There may well be a lot of truth in that.

Regardless of politics, the British like fair play, if not on a macro level (we are, as voters, quite happy with 'haves' and 'have nots'), then on a micro level. We don't like queue-jumpers or cheats, whether that's at Monopoly or international sport. We don't like people making fools of us, which is what rule-breakers like Cummings and Johnson have done.

If it had been a one-off, accidental 'slip', or even a one-off deliberate thing, we might have forgiven it, but seeing Johnson day after day on that podium telling us that we couldn't see friends and families, to spend Christmas apart, to leave old people in care homes on their own, to postpone weddings and not comfort one another at funerals, when all along he was partying? No, I don't think any but the most hardened supporters could accept that.

Coastpath Fri 21-Jan-22 17:24:27

First a loss of faith in the collective spirit and then a loss of faith in our leader's ability to tell the truth about the parties. Too much to ask of British people after a couple of hard years of personal sacrifice for the greater good.

Dinahmo Fri 21-Jan-22 17:36:59

Maizie A very interesting read, thank you. Sadly, I don't think that everybody is up in arms about party gate. There's still a sizeable minority that thinks it's nothing to worry about, possibly because they don't quite understand the significance of the wrong doing and the attempted coverups.

The news slipping out today is that Johnson is worried about the Sue Grey report. If that is damning will his supporters in the country still support him?

Casdon Fri 21-Jan-22 17:41:55

It may have united the country (not sure about that, the majority maybe but not so many older people I suspect), although it definitely hasn’t yet united Gransnet. I wonder if there’s any political topic that could?

varian Fri 21-Jan-22 17:48:23

I think that the jolly Downing Street parties, involving a DJ, dancing and trips to the Co-op to bring back a suitcase full of booze, on the evening before the Duke of Edinburgh's funeral is the last straw for many loyal conservatives.

Oopsadaisy1 Fri 21-Jan-22 18:23:36

It was the straw that broke the camels back.

We can put up with so much, till we can’t stand no more…..

MayBeMaw Fri 21-Jan-22 18:29:40

Probably because it is very hard to have half a brain cell and be in agreement with either holding these parties or to believe that the person who is supposed to be running the country “didna ken “ and apparently “nobody told him “.
Weel ye ken noo

M0nica Fri 21-Jan-22 19:19:32

I was just giggling as I read this twaddle. It is the sort of material published in boys magazines and moral tracts around 1900.

The author needs to remember a bare 50% of the population vited for Brexit, so half the voting public thought 'taking back control' was a meaningless phrase, that meant going backwards into some nostalgic past (that never existed) where, in John Major's words Fifty years on from now, Britain will still be the country of long shadows on county [cricket] grounds, warm beer, invincible green suburbs, dog lovers, and—as George Orwell said—old maids bicycling to Holy Communion through the morning mist.

This world never did exist and never will.

What we have had in the past, compare with almost any other country in the world, is a generally honest political class, not perfect by any means, but better than most.

In recent years this has changed. We now have a political class that can proudly take its place as another country where people go into politics for what they can get out of it where cronyism and nepotism is flagrant, where contracts go to friends and politicians consider themselves above the law and senior politicians blackmail others to make them conform.

Most of all we have as our 'leader' a gazetted serial liar and cheat, The Baron Munchausen of politics. Now the worm has turned, People in this country want to return to honest politics, where those in the public eye, like politicians hid their crimes and had the decency to take responsibility for their actions and who accepted that if they were found out they had to go.

If the twerp who wrote this article had any real understanding of what has really been happening recently, he wouldn't write such rubbish.

Coastpath Fri 21-Jan-22 19:49:00

Utterly beautifully put M0nica - what a bloody brilliant read. I've read that three times and am blown away by your eloquence.

You wouldn't consider being Prime Minister would you?

Hetty58 Fri 21-Jan-22 20:17:34

I'm sure that M0nica has better things to do!

Iam64 Fri 21-Jan-22 20:19:05

MOnica - one of your best, amongst many excellent posts

MaizieD Fri 21-Jan-22 20:42:42

the person who wrote this twaddle, Monica is a former university professor with a distinguished career. He's written a long series of very perceptive and analytical blogs for the past 6 years on the issue of Brexit and the current government.

What bit do you think is 'twaddle'? The bit about perceived British characteristics?

I'm afraid I can't admire your post at all.

Do you not think that the country is, on the whole, united in their disgust at Johnson's actions? The polling is certainly looking that way. So is Gnet. There certainly aren't a great many dissenting voices.

MaizieD Fri 21-Jan-22 20:43:23

P.S I wouldn't vote for you...

M0nica Fri 21-Jan-22 22:46:55

I hope no one would vote for me. I am far too much of a loose canon.

and thank you to those who liked it.

It is twaddle because it is an over blown recall of a world that never existed, except in the minds of elderly gentlemen of a certain kind - John Major being another.

The fact that he has written this blog for all this time does not preclude him writing utter tosh on occasion. I have read nothing else he is written, but accept your judgement of him, Maizie as erudite and thoughtful

Being a former university professor with a distinguished career has never stopped those with such illustrious backgrounds from making fools of themselves on political matters.