Holocaust Memorial Day

I had a peek outside and I'm the only person in the street with a candle.

the more visible Jews are definitely being targeted, especially in London.
Definitely tickingbird.

Yammy

MaizieD

I think your last sentence would have been better left unsaid, Yammy.

There is antisemitism and other forms of racism all through the population. It is not exclusive to any one organisation.

Personally, having been brought up in the 50s/60s when the Holocaust was a recent experience and pervaded our lives much more than a once a year 'Day', I couldn't understand why Jews were hated so much and still don't (apart from anti Zionism). They're just people, like everyone else in this world.

(I had more of a problem with having anti-German feelings because of popular culture and the Holocaust)

Maybe you do but I don't it shows how racial predudice of any kind can be insidious until it is found out.
We are hopefully look at these matters differently now but it has not always been the case Dickens had his Fagin and Shakespeare his Shylock and Othello. neither were castigated for it.
Race eradication is still being practised in countries like Myanmar.
I was also brought up in the 50's when anti German/Japanese feeling was still strong because of relations and friends lost in both wars but always sympathised with children who had German parents and the verbal abuse they suffered.

What I was getting at, Yammy. is that it isn't just one organisation.

Who do you think attacked 2 Jews today?

twitter.com/search?q=jews%20attacked%20london&src=typeahead_click

It's sadly, and for some unknown reason, pervasive.

As a Jewish person I can tell you that anti semitism is on the rise and it just doesn’t create the fuss and outrage that other forms of racist attacks do. I don’t look Jewish and don’t broadcast the fact but the more visible Jews are definitely being targeted, especially in London. This has increased substantially since Corbyn and pals were running the LP.

MaizieD

I think your last sentence would have been better left unsaid, Yammy.

There is antisemitism and other forms of racism all through the population. It is not exclusive to any one organisation.

Personally, having been brought up in the 50s/60s when the Holocaust was a recent experience and pervaded our lives much more than a once a year 'Day', I couldn't understand why Jews were hated so much and still don't (apart from anti Zionism). They're just people, like everyone else in this world.

(I had more of a problem with having anti-German feelings because of popular culture and the Holocaust)

Maybe you do but I don't it shows how racial predudice of any kind can be insidious until it is found out.
We are hopefully look at these matters differently now but it has not always been the case Dickens had his Fagin and Shakespeare his Shylock and Othello. neither were castigated for it.
Race eradication is still being practised in countries like Myanmar.
I was also brought up in the 50's when anti German/Japanese feeling was still strong because of relations and friends lost in both wars but always sympathised with children who had German parents and the verbal abuse they suffered.

Holocaust memorial Day.So important to remember. I used to think something so unspeakably awful could never happen again - not so sure any longer.

I would like to see the portraits Prince Charles has had commissioned for the Queens Gallery.

Me too, Grandmadinosaur. I see three are shown on the BBC News site but not the others.

Politics aside, I wonder if one of the portraits was of a lady I met, only twice, but who left a great impression on me.
She survived but died only recently last November, I hadnt realised
She became a knitwear designer.

Mady Gerrard - RIP

My memorium candle is lit.

Josieann, it sounds as though your work took you into an area with a particular Jewish community, possibly Hasidic. Like many Christian or Muslim fundamentalist sects, they want to be separate.
Their way of life bears no resemblance to that of my Jewish friends

Just seen the portraits on the news. They are wonderful.

Those are on my bucket list Alegrias we'd planned to go and then Covid happened.

Yes, very sad sodapop. Boris puts it well,
This attack is a terrible reminder, on Holocaust Memorial Day, that such prejudice is not consigned to history, but remains a very real problem in society.
I used to go over to a Jewish area in North London to teach once a week and the Jewish community had their own security firm patrolling the streets. The problem for them there was that they wanted to keep themselves somewhat secretively aloof from the rest of the community, (in gated areas), which brings about it's own kind of problems.

Apparently there was an unprovoked antisemitic attack on two men today of all days, unbelievable and sad.

The Holocaust Memorial Trust does excellent work in schools throughout the country. They organise tours of Auschwitz with secondary school pupils - I was invited to join one several years ago. They do work with the pupils before the actual trip itself, which includes talks from Holocaust survivors, and the trip itself involves not only Auschwitz itself, but the neighbouring town of Oswiecim. Our particular tour was escorted by a wonderful Rabbi and concluded with a short memorial service on the train tracks at Birkenau, where we lit candles in memory of all those who perished. It was incredibly moving.

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I believe this should be taught in schools.
It is, certainly from KS2 on.

It is taught in schools.

I was listening to an old man on BBC breakfast this morning and couldn’t believe what he was saying about what he’d gone through. It was so upsetting. How can people treat other humans like this. I believe this should be taught in schools. It’s should never be forgotten. I remember watching a programme when I was young called Kitty return to Auschwitz and was so upset by it and it’s really stayed with me.

I couldn't understand why Jews were hated so much and still don't.
It is such a long standing and universal hatred. If only we knew why.

I think your last sentence would have been better left unsaid, Yammy.

There is antisemitism and other forms of racism all through the population. It is not exclusive to any one organisation.

Personally, having been brought up in the 50s/60s when the Holocaust was a recent experience and pervaded our lives much more than a once a year 'Day', I couldn't understand why Jews were hated so much and still don't (apart from anti Zionism). They're just people, like everyone else in this world.

(I had more of a problem with having anti-German feelings because of popular culture and the Holocaust)

I have Jewish friends and know they will be thinking of their lost relations today. I have a friend who fought in the Yom Kippor War as a young men.
I think it should be remembered along with tolerance to all colours and creeds. We only have to look to the labour party a few years ago to see that anti Semetism still exits.

Purplepixie

I agree! We must NEVER forget.

There was a gentleman on TV at lunchtime Martin Stern talking about his story. He was a 5 year old schoolboy in Amsterdam when he was taken out of school and tricked into identifying adult family friends who were Jewish. He himself ended up at Auchwitz. Having a GS this age I cannot comprehend such evil. He had a baby sister who went to another camp but miraculously they were reunited at Auchwitz later on. Just an amazing story.

I would like to see the portraits Prince Charles has had commissioned for the Queens Gallery.

I disagree that more publicity, more airtime and more education time needs to be given over to the Holocaust itself. It is actually very well documented and most of the people who wanted to talk about their awful experiences have already done so. Too many dramatisations and documentaries could lead to fatigue.
The Holocaust per se is one of the most difficult and sensitive areas of KS2 History to teach at school, but as time moves on, to the next generations it becomes just that, History. It actually becomes more important to highlight how necessary it is to be tolerant of other people's beliefs and differences in the 21st century.
What is vital, is to get across how the genocide has percolated into our own contemporary consciousness, and how we should learn from the atrocities of the past. Keeping it high in our awareness means relating it to present day politics and attitudes, and moving forward.
Thank you for the reminder about the programme with the artists' portraits henetha.

Whitewavemark2

MaizieD

We must never forget what led up to it, too.

(Though I think that's the bit that people do forget...)

Like losing sight of peoples humanity?

I was thinking along those lines, yes, but also recognising the process by which extreme fascist ideas take hold of a country.