The SNP to cut off the bottom half of classroom doors!

GranyGravy
Good job one of our members has flounced.
You could have got some stick there: owning offices and warehouses ?

When I saw this news earlier my immediate thoughts were..'That's it..I really do live in a mad mad world. '
Really can't see the problem with classroom windows being open and doors propped open. If it is cold then just do on a regular basis just as we are encouraged to do at home. I'm not saying children should be freezing but layer up.
Its not even a cheap option to cut a door down. Labour cost of removing, cutting and rehanging will not be as cheap as a door stop. If a fire were to break out a shut door would at least buy some time if bottom or indeed the top of it is missing it would offer far less protection.. Good ventilation is and as far as I am aware always has been important but cutting a door down just seems blooming ridiculous to me.

They could take turns in looking after the dog in the holidays.
I like the tartan dog. Mine is a bit of a tatty dog now.

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The pupils could make them in Craft, Art and Design (or whatever they call it these days)

I like him, every home should have one!
I was rather thinking every school with chopped doors should have one.

Which tartan is he? I like him, every home should have one!

However, I don't think our grand-dog would like it!

(He's Welsh, btw)

Callistemon21

AGAA4

The front door of my flat has a tiny gap under it and a force 10 gale blows under it so it certainly would air the flat if I didn't put a dog in front of it.
The dog is a cloth one btw!

We used to have one of those - a long dachshund which my SisIL made for us.

They make Scottish terrier ones too which might be useful!

Windows that open
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We sat in the GP surgery waiting room today and all the top windows were open. There was a fair old breeze blowing through even though doors were shut.

AGAA4

The front door of my flat has a tiny gap under it and a force 10 gale blows under it so it certainly would air the flat if I didn't put a dog in front of it.
The dog is a cloth one btw!

We used to have one of those - a long dachshund which my SisIL made for us.

The front door of my flat has a tiny gap under it and a force 10 gale blows under it so it certainly would air the flat if I didn't put a dog in front of it.
The dog is a cloth one btw!

If we attempted this in our Offices and Warehouse the doors would never pass the annual Fire Inspection, we would either have to close or replace doors.

Another thing to think of Ms. Sturgeon is that tampering with Fire Doors could and probably would invalidate the fire aspect of any insurances.

They have a metal component that can’t be planed.

But then they shouldn’t be propped open either.

Windows that open or mechanical vents I’m afraid if you want to ventilate.

Peasblossom

Because they are fire doors, with a different composition to a standard domestic door.

Good point ..... but back to the stupidity of tampering with a fire door in the first place.

Because they are fire doors, with a different composition to a standard domestic door.

Because it’s easy to spend other people’s (taxpayers) money. Nicola Sturgeon would probably look for better value if it were her own doors being (ahem) attended to.

£150 per door???
I've just looked on a couple of my builder sites and the estimates are £50 - £70 to
Take the door off, plane it all down, put it back on again. Probably even cheaper if doing it in bulk.
Why 3 times the price?

Aveline

2000. Not a small number!

It works out at £150 a door. Well, it all makes work for the working man to do. www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1dvAxA9ib0

"A sum of £300,000 is being set out by the Scottish Government so that around 2000 doors can be “undercut to increase air flow”.

The Government expects to spend around £4.3m on the measures – which also include £1.6m on air filters and £2.4m on mechanical fans.

Somerville explained the costs, to be borne by an additional £5m allocated for capital spending in schools, “will vary significantly in practice”.

2000. Not a small number!

While it is fun to laugh at the idea, I don't think , to be accurate, that anyone has suggested cutting the doors in half as the headlines have it, even those 2% to 4% of doors on "problematic spaces" where it will prove difficult to increase the ventilation - it would be more like planing a bit off the bottom of them, and that would be a temporary last resort.

“Based on informal local authority feedback, we expect that relatively only a very small number of learning, teaching or play spaces will have persistently high CO2 levels,” the education secretary’s letter states.

"Scottish Government guidance, based on the current weight of expert advice, is that the primary focus of mitigating activity should be on regular CO2 monitoring and associated remedial actions to improve ventilation (i.e. the introduction of fresh air into spaces).

“Where this cannot be readily achieved, and CO2 readings remain high, air cleaning/filtration devices may exceptionally be used as a temporary mitigation to reduce risks in problematic spaces while more sustainable, ventilation-based solutions are implemented.

“The informal local authority feedback indicated that around 2-4% of spaces have so far fallen into that problematic category, equalling around 2000 spaces out of 50,000 learning, teaching and play spaces across all local authority school and ELC settings.”

And isn’t it lovely to see that the vast majority of posters have seen the funny side of this ludicrous idea and have joined in the fun?

We are all badly in need of some lighthearted silliness, but who would have thought it would have come courtesy of a certain Ms. Sturgeon ?!

Thanks everyone for such a wonderful thread. What started out as a bit of a glum week for me has ended with a much needed bit of light hearted humour. To echo everyone else's comments well done Urmstongran for setting it off- if only more N&P threads were like this one.

Some classy posts here again today, thank you folks for making me laugh!

I really don’t understand the ‘Nicola’s done so well with the pandemic’ idea. Scotland’s outcome hasn’t been materially different from the rest of the UK and some people have been thrown under the bus altogether.

This has been discussed on Jeremy Vine on Radio 2, with fire officers saying how very dangerous this suggestion would be because every door in a school is a fire door except those to the toilets.

It really is a bonkers idea!

Good idea JenniferEccles. I’m sure there’s ‘rich pickings’ out there if we ?

We definitely need more threads like this!
Perhaps we should all keep our eyes peeled for any other gems to post on here.