Women-only train carriages

I believe there is safety in numbers. Mixed carriages are the safest way for women to travel, in my opinion.

I agree about women having the potential to be violent. I agree about the stupidity of allowing anyone who says they are a woman in those carriages. As FarNorth said, such a person just being there would make for discomfort.
Do you think this has been proposed so that enough people will say they don’t want this, and that decision will be used to justify males in female prisons in Scotland?

I think I would feel just as unsafe as a lone woman in a woman-only carriage, or even if there were some other women there. If I'm scared by someone then other women are likely to be as well. Plus, as someone said, women can be violent too - I was once threatened in broad daylight in a street by a woman who wanted me to give her money "to get home quickly to her child who was ill". A passing man came to my aid, fortunately.

When I used to travel late on the trains I always made a point of heading towards a carriage where there were a number of people, not just women.

Redhead56

Yes definition of a woman a man could be dressed as a woman.

There's no need to even do that, Redhead56.
Any man, at any time, can claim to be a woman and it's 'hate speech' to challenge him.

So if a man felt like getting into a women-only carriage, nothing could be done about it as long as he didn't do anything violent.
He could make the women feel uncomfortable simply by being there because they'd know he wasn't simply an innocent passenger who happened to be in the same carriage.

I agree with all the other points made here, against this idea.

I hadn't thought of it that way, but of course, it's then risky for other reasons.
Probably a bad idea then.

It’s a non-starter, for me. When you can’t even define what a woman is, which seems to be the situation in Scotland, how can you have women-only trains?

As a magistrate-friend told me, it’s a signpost for perverts to be able to know where they can find vulnerable women.

I also dislike the implication that innocent women must be the ones to change their behaviour rather than the onus being on men to change theirs.

You'd get in a normal carriage.

What if travelling with a male partner. Would have to split up?

I have known quite a few females who have felt very, very uncomfortable in carriages with either a lone male, or a group.

Yes definition of a woman a man could be dressed as a woman.

I am sure I remember women ( or ladies) only carriages, in the 50/60s.

I would definitely use them, depending on the definition of 'women'.

I suppose it’s a choice, like quiet carriages or, in past times, no smoking carriages.

Me, I’d welcome child and pet free carriages?

We could have a long train with one “free” carriage after another?

I have seldom heard of such a silly idea, but it comes up now and again. Once again, it's a way of blaming women for problems instead of the men who actually cause the problems. According to the BBC Reality Check, in places where it has been tried it has little effect, and the danger is still there when you arrive at the station and get off the train.

How they think ScotRail can provide enough carriages for a start is one question, as there are a lot of 2-coach trains and it would mean almost half the population, plus mixed parties, crowding into half a train.

As Doodledog says, women can be violent and unpleasant too, so a women-only carriage wouldn't help.

Any male who fancied his chances of a bit of sexual assault would just have to claim to identify as a woman anyway (also mentioned in the OP).

Why on earth not spend a lot less money in employing more staff and British Transport Police officers and deal with the offenders properly instead of making women, once again, hide away and alter their behaviour because of some (and by no means all) men?

The newer London Underground trains are great and feel much safer - no chance of finding yourself alone in a carriage.

They're the usual 7 or 8 carriages in length but open-plan so basically one long carriage.

No not a good idea, I think it's inviting problems on more than one front.

Not a fan of women only train carriages.

Are trains in Scotland going to keep on having guards?
I know Southern rail wanted to stop having guards, which would surely make trains less safe for both sexes.