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Lubov Chernukin

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volver Mon 21-Feb-22 20:23:07

Its terribly naïve to think that just because you didn't see Putin on your Facebook timeline that there was no Russian impact on the way the Brexit vote turned out. Not being on any social media isn't an excuse either, because some of the material that landed on my doormat from a variety of different "Vote Leave" organisations was clearly lying about the EU and its future direction of travel, as has now been proved post-referendum.

All of us, one way or another, are influenced by a biased press and an environment where foreign governments could easily sway the voting intentions of the electorate by spreading misinformation. Anyone who says they weren't affected and made their minds up solely on the truthful evidence that they were presented with, is fooling themselves. That's not how it works any more.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 21-Feb-22 20:15:50

varian

How do you know that you didn't get your information from Putin?

I know 100% as pre the referendum I was not on any social media platforms.

varian Mon 21-Feb-22 19:46:48

How do you know that you didn't get your information from Putin?

Jaberwok Mon 21-Feb-22 19:38:23

Well Putin certainly didn't swing it for me. I wasn't even aware of him on Facebook. I made my decision by weighing up the pro's and cons and voting accordingly.

varian Mon 21-Feb-22 18:27:25

It was Vladimir Putin's colossal onslaught on Facebook on the day before the EU referendum that swung it for Vote Leave.

Boris Johnson owes everything to Putin.

The megabucks donations to the Tory party from Putin's friends in London are just the icing on the cake.

Is Johnson, like Trump, just another Putin puppet, a "useful idiot" who can disrupt Western democracy?

paddyann54 Mon 21-Feb-22 18:18:18

Sorry I cant find the link I read.When I do I will post it .BUT ,the Russian woman in his "secret millionaire cabinet " and the Russian in the Lords ,who BOTH still have Russian passports , proof of funding the tories and strong links to Putin ....that doesn't bother anyone? Just me then .

maddyone Mon 21-Feb-22 18:04:02

I thought the UK was supplying the Ukraine with arms.

Kali2 Mon 21-Feb-22 18:00:23

Oh, that's ok then !!!

The Russians probably have enough photos and footage of Johnson at orgies organised in Umbria which he attended several times. Apparently Katie Hopkins could tell a tale or two.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 21-Feb-22 16:02:16

Yes it’s a big business MaizieD employing a lot of people in both production and R & D.

MaizieD Mon 21-Feb-22 15:54:01

The UK has sold arms to Russia in the past, but it looks as though the practice was halted about 8 years ago.

In the murky world of arms dealing there's no guarantee that they haven't bought British arms since then using a third party as an intermediary. But I can't find any suggestion that this has happened.

We are, though, not particularly discriminatory about who we sell arms to. It's one of our big foreign earners...

www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/27/17bn-of-uk-arms-sold-to-rights-abusers

Sparklefizz Mon 21-Feb-22 15:30:56

Wow! A lot of unpleasant accusations here without any proof.

paddyann54 Mon 21-Feb-22 15:24:15

It is also public knowledge the UK supplied Russia with arms before the Crimean invasion ,I'll look for the link and post it .Mr Putin is not the enemy ,he's sitting in Downing St acting the clown ,selling us down the river...but thats what Tories do!

GrannyGravy13 Mon 21-Feb-22 15:14:25

Have you a link confirming U.K. supplying
arms to Russia please?

It is public knowledge that the U.K. is supplying Ukraine.

Elegran Mon 21-Feb-22 14:52:54

Takeover bids can be achieved without a war, Paddyann. Cultural and social infiltration does the job just as efficiently.

paddyann54 Mon 21-Feb-22 14:49:55

This russian lady who bid £20.000 to have lunch with Ruth Davidson and who has donated @ £2MILLION to the Tories is now on Bojo's secret millionaire cabinet ,according to news reports today.She is the wife of Putins former finance secretary .
Given that Bojo sent an Ex KGB officers son to the H ouse of Lords aand that the UK is supplying Russia with weapons ...can anyone tell me why as a country we are being told to be scared of a war with Russia .It sure looks as if we're on their side from where I'm sitting