Given the Russian cash funding the Tory party.....

Yes- not is doesn't!!!

From Clive Savage

''Imagine if in 1939 the Tory party had put a German in the House of Lords, was funded by the Conservative Friends of Germany and its leader had spent his weekends attending parties at the Italian castle of a prominent German industrialist….''

yes, just imagine!

USA and France have cancelled their meetings with Russian Foreign Minister - Lavrov.

It seems that the USA and the EU are leading the way in this.

Russian connections with the Tories, UKIP ( now the same thing ) , Dominic Cummings, Brexit etc are not news. U.K. is seen as pro Putin, and of little consequence anyway. Johnson comes across as weak and a bit of an inconsequential joke figure internationally. Freezing a few bank accounts will have no consequence.

Vladimir Putin has released a video in the last 50 minutes, referring to finding a diplomatic solution.

Sanctions have rattled his cage

Well if it is the case, and I very much doubt it, it will not be as a result of what Johnson has done.

Whitewavemark2

Well if it is the case, and I very much doubt it, it will not be as a result of what Johnson has done.

It is being reported on the news Vladimir Putin ready for diplomacy

To be honest I do not care what sanctions have got to him, as long as war in Eastern Europe can be avoided.

What a petty little act the Johnson government has put forward. This Dirty Parliament will not change until we change it. The man is for sale to the highest bidder; it's not as if we didn't know that. The question is, how many of his government, who have already shown a willingness to ignore the rules of our democratic parliament and the law, are of similar character?

Putin is saying he is not worried about the sanctions, that Russia is strong financially and will cope. Is this just bluster?

AGAA4 Russia appears to have an economy of between half and two thirds that of the UK. Interestingly, we have a higher percentage living in poverty.

DaisyAnne

AGAA4 Russia appears to have an economy of between half and two thirds that of the UK. Interestingly, we have a higher percentage living in poverty.

That is interesting. I’ve never looked at anything relating to Russian socio-economy.

GrannyGravy13

Vladimir Putin has released a video in the last 50 minutes, referring to finding a diplomatic solution.

Sanctions have ^rattled his cage^

The USA appears not to think Sanctions have rattled his cage sufficiently, GrannyGravy. They appear to be withdrawing from the diplomatic discussions. Listening to those who know about these things, there is a case for thinking that the discussions to date have just swelled Putin's view of his position in the world. This view has been fed into the Russian public.

(Source R4 -Today)

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DaisyAnne

GrannyGravy13

Vladimir Putin has released a video in the last 50 minutes, referring to finding a diplomatic solution.

Sanctions have ^rattled his cage^

The USA appears not to think Sanctions have rattled his cage sufficiently, GrannyGravy. They appear to be withdrawing from the diplomatic discussions. Listening to those who know about these things, there is a case for thinking that the discussions to date have just swelled Putin's view of his position in the world. This view has been fed into the Russian public.

(Source R4 -Today)

I have said this on the other thread regarding Russia/Ukraine.

It’s a vanity project for Vladimir Putin, he has to have something significant during his presidency, something for Russians Historians to call him a great leader on the World Stage.

On the other hand I am not buying into the all rich Russians are crooks rhetoric being espoused by some of the MSM.

"all rich Russians are crooks". Could you show me where this has been said.

I would agree that governments that do not equate and tax all income at the same rate are dishonest.

So you’d like to pay higher rate income tax Daisy?

What I would like is fair tax.

But we diverge.

Continuing the divergence briefly - I would like to pay higher taxes if it would help raise children out of poverty and provide really effective and fair education, health and social services. I have always felt this way. I believe I'm not alone in this.

So Johnson has misled the house regarding comments he made about Roman Abramovich. Legged it from parliament when confronted by it. Now having to make a statement to say he lied. Without, of course, having to use the word lied.

Germanshepherdsmum

So you’d like to pay higher rate income tax Daisy?

I agree with WWM2, why would I complain if we all payed a fair tax?

Would you, as you seem to want to be personal about this?

You said we should all pay the same rate of tax. That would certainly mean many of us paying a great deal more and probably the very rich paying a great deal less. I don’t what you said was what you meant.

According to a news report this morning, places like Kensington and Knightsbridge are known as ‘the launderette’ because of the massive amounts of dirty Russian money. If we’ve allowed this to happen it’s going to be very difficult to impose sanctions without hurting ourselves. So far the UK sanctions have involved five banks and three individuals - Putin must be having sleepless nights !!

Given the amount of donations the they receive from Russian donors the Conservative Party are going to find it very difficult to impose sanctions without hurting itself.

The three individuals do not live in the U.K. and the banks are not the biggest players.

I suspect that those who wish to do so are busy moving their money out if the U.K. now.

Johnson is a good friend to the crooks.

Germanshepherdsmum

You said we should all pay the same rate of tax. That would certainly mean many of us paying a great deal more and probably the very rich paying a great deal less. I don’t what you said was what you meant.

I think you misunderstood my use of "all income". I agree it wasn't as explicit as it could be. (Note to self: do not post while making a phone call )

Let's take an example. Say, you get half what your neighbour gets in salary/wages. You also earn the same amount from investments. Your neighbour has no other source of income. You both, therefore, have the same amount of income. However, currently, they are taxed differently. Surely it would not be unreasonable for income from investments to be added to income from earnings and the total amount treated in the way your neighbour's income - only from earnings - is treated?