Putin's broadcast

Varian I think it was a big mistake. We have lost the moral high ground. RT had such a small audience and it talked such arrant nonsense, that no one could take it seriously.

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Ah! Thank you Volver I was concerned but not sure what I had heard.

DaisyAnne

If I heard it right Putin has said that the sanctions are a declaration of war. If this is the case and he decides to do something about it, we may as well put a no-fly zone over Ukraine.

That's not what he said. He said that they were "akin to a declaration of war but thank God it has not come to that."

He's upping the ante and talking big for his own people, but I think the devil is in the detail.

If I heard it right Putin has said that the sanctions are a declaration of war. If this is the case and he decides to do something about it, we may as well put a no-fly zone over Ukraine.

In a way I regret the banning of RT in the UK.

I occasionally watched it to discover what Russia wanted us to think but could only ever manage five minutes - it was so extreme.

I heard a Russian woman on the radio saying that she lived in Kyiv and was in regular phone contact with her mother in Russia. She explained to her mother exactly what was happening in Kyiv, how the Russian forces were attacking residential areas, hospitals, schools and other civilian targets and her mother said that she did not believe her! She preferred to believe what she was told by Russian tv.

Such is the power of propaganda.

Can I just share this with you?
The last section is about Russian students who know better than the teachers about what's going on:
www.thisamericanlife.org/763/the-other-mr-president

Rownatree I am in complete agreement with you. I remember the Cuban missile crisis.

I was at university at the time. Very worrying indeed.

flump

How very upsetting it must be for people, who live in the Ukraine, to tell their parents, living in Russia, what is happening and to have parents who would rather believe state media.

My youngest daughter works with a lady from the Ukraine. She has a sister living there and their parents are in Russia. When the mother is told what is happening to the Ukrainian people she refuses to believe her daughters and says it is the Ukraine Government turning on their own people. Western media being banned from Russia so it isn't likely to get any better.

This situation is at least as dangerous bas the Cuba Missile crisis of 1962. I recall my mother being terrified of nuclear war and wanted to emigrate somewhere safe ( no idea where). No one knows how this will end, of course, but in the meantime there is horrendous suffering of the Ukrainian people at the hands of Putin.

Someone used the analogy of being on a bus where the driver had gone mad and was careering all over the place. Except of course that this driver has his finger twitching over the nuclear button.

Putin tells the Russian people that it is just a military exercise to rid Ukraine of the bandits and drug addicts who are in government. They believe that the Ukrainians are attacking their own country.

He seems to have lost his grip on reality. I just hope those in his inner circle aren't as irrational as he is.

I read that article this morning Jaxjacky, I could hardly believe it.

Exactly as this flump.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60600487

How very upsetting it must be for people, who live in the Ukraine, to tell their parents, living in Russia, what is happening and to have parents who would rather believe state media.

I suppose you could argue that it ia a monument to Nazis atrocities.

Beswitched

His troops bombed a Nazi memorial in Ukraine.

Well Blossoming beat me to it good for them. Please read this
www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/russia-bombs-holocaust-memorial-in-kyiv-where-34000-jews-were-massacred/ar-AAUvQUZ

Beswitched

His troops bombed a Nazi memorial in Ukraine.

They bombed a Holocaust memorial commemorating the slaughter at Babyn Yar, not a Nazi memorial at all. Disgraceful.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60588885

His troops bombed people who had nothing to do with nazism or memorials. Perhaps he hoped people would only notice the demolition of a memorial.

His troops bombed a Nazi memorial in Ukraine.

He keeps trying to remind people of Russian aid in getting rid of the Nazis. What he doesn’t realise is that in actual fact he’s acting just like Adolf Hitler.

A reporter has just said "we are living in two differnt realities.

Interesting that it is the second round of talks this evening. I imagine the speech was to set the frame Putin wants for it.