What a surprise, Harry’s not coming.

Maddyone I will disagree with you on just one thing, my younger daughter couldn’t have children, 14 failed IVF and five miscarriages. She does not have the understanding of the deep
love a mother has for her children or a grandmother for her
grandchildren, as I don’t know what it is to not have children and grandchildren. We have never experienced these.

BTW, I commented on this thread because it was started by maddyone, whose pov I generally concur with.

Thank you volver. With me, what you see is what you get. I’m fairly straight and to the point. I appreciate your comments.

Namsnanny thank you for your comment and agreeing with my points. I do generally try to discuss things rationally and without undue emotion. I try to focus on the facts and I normally state if it’s just my opinion.

maddyone

Well I started the thread. I don’t care whether Harry attends his grandfather’s memorial or not, but maybe his grandmother would like him there. From my perspective the memorial will be better without Harry as the press would probably focus on him.
Also of interest is that it’s been reported that the Queen isn’t going to attend the Commonwealth service, which I believe is near to her heart. I think she’ll be very disappointed about that.
I speak as as neither a royalist nor a republican. I have a foot in both camps as I’ve said before, but these stories are in the news, and I and others have every right to be interested, to comment, and to discuss, or to just scroll on by.

I quite agree maddyone with each of your points.
I scroll by a lot of threads, not always because I disagree with them just because...

maddyone. Not every poster lies about Meghan and Harry. I'm sure you haven't, I don't think that's what you are like.

But this whole thread and all the others are riven with lies, supposition and comments worthy of a 2 year old child. Is calling others "witches " acceptable?

Maybe not.

Is calling someone a coward and a liar and worse acceptable? I calling his wife a gold digger and a manipulator and worse acceptable?

Definitely not.

People are letting their own life experiences govern their attitudes to others and they are letting it run away with them.

I will repeat,
what I don’t like is having things attributed to me that I have not said

I have not said I hate anyone
I have not said anyone resembles a witch
I have not denigrated Harry anywhere, I have merely tried to discuss how his behaviour may have affected his family
I have said how I might feel under those circumstances
I have not lied
And I not insulted anyone by calling them ‘haters’
I have not called Harry a coward

I do NOT hate Harry. I have discussed his behaviour only.

Please tell me volverwhere I have lied in my post. Please don’t tell that you find calling others ‘witches’ is acceptable.

Galaxy

I had very little contact with my cousins etc when I ws a child and have no contact with them now. I am happy that you think its important fir your children but it certainly wasnt important for me.

Thank you Galaxy. It’s sad that that you missed out on these relationships, but having done so, I don’t expect you to find any value in them at all. That doesn’t mean that they have no value though, it means you don’t value them.

Really maddyone? Really?

The ire and vitriol and lies that are posted on here about somebody none of us knows and that's what you object to?

..can’t anyone leave them alone, it’s like picking a scab…

From the same poster! And posters who are called ‘haters’ are the ones being vilified here. Perhaps some posters need to look a little closer to home to find immature behaviour.

Whenever a post about Meghan and Harry come up Inget a vision of witches stirring a cauldron, and I can’t think why

Is there really any need for a nasty post like this? I posted my thoughts without the need to insult other posters, without calling anyone a hater or a liar. I find these kind of comments unacceptable, rude, and nasty. Absolutely unacceptable from a person of more mature years, but certainly not a mature comment. Absolutely unacceptable! And sadly, it’s not the first time I’ve seen posters referred to as witches.

Thanks Iam64

People can post what they like, of course.

Just as I can post something about what I believe motivates their posting. I think we all post from a position of showing people what we're like, what our values are.

I'll just leave that there.

Still it continues. Thanks volver for trying

^ Perhaps the reason that people don't leave H&M alone is the fact that they constantly draw attention to themselves usually in a detrimental or irritating way. Curious for a couple whose only wish was for privacy and a quiet private life, which very few people would have had any objection to. ^

Agreed! Also why does H think it is ‘too dangerous’ for him to return the UK? Is he so full of his own self importance to think he’s in more ‘danger’ than anyone else. He’s just an ordinary person, like the rest of us - he’s made it very clear that’s what he wants to be. Make your mind up H!!!

Harry coming to memorial … showing respect for grandfather and giving support to grandmother. But not helping his legal action against Home Office. Which is more important?

Harry isn’t coming to memorial…..drawing attention to self
Harry is coming to memorial……drawing attention to self.

Perhaps the reason that people don't leave H&M alone is the fact that they constantly draw attention to themselves usually in a detrimental or irritating way. Curious for a couple whose only wish was for privacy and a quiet private life, which very few people would have had any objection to.

I had very little contact with my cousins etc when I ws a child and have no contact with them now. I am happy that you think its important fir your children but it certainly wasnt important for me.

BlueBelle

Lemsip ….no nothing else going on in the world is there !!!!

When ever a post about Meghan and Harry come up I get a vision of witches stirring the cauldron, and I can’t think why

Hallucinogenic blinkers?

Lemsip ….no nothing else going on in the world is there !!!!

When ever a post about Meghan and Harry come up I get a vision of witches stirring the cauldron, and I can’t think why

I agree Bluebelle

BlueBelle

Can’t anyone leave them alone it’s like picking a scab you all want him to stay out of the country and to keep quiet, but when he does that that’s not right either

If you don’t like these two, ignore them, stop pick pick picking its vitriolic, it’s boring and shows this country at its worse

Good post bluebelle, but you’re on a hiding to nothing !

Incidentally I’m not a royalist. I’m not a republican either. I don’t know what I am, I haven’t made my mind up yet.

volver firstly I didn’t mention you not having children/grandchildren at any point, and that’s because I think it’s irrelevant. We all have much loved family members. Secondly I don’t hate Harry or Meghan. I think hate is a very strong word to use and I prefer to dislike the action, not the person. Such as when my children were little and did something naughty, I’d say I don’t like you doing that but I do love you.
I’m pleased that you understand that if a family member criticised a lot of things you did on television, it would be traumatic for you. We agree on this, I would find it very traumatic and I would be extremely embarrassed at having the family laundry washed in public. Also I agree that posters/people find this situation difficult because they feel empathetic towards the Queen and Prince Charles. And of course you’re right that as adults they can sort things out themselves, although it absolutely must be acknowledged that it is highly embarrassing for them to be put into this position. The Queen of course, pulled a master stroke when she said ‘Recollections may vary.’ I’ll leave everyone to conclude what that meant for themselves.
Additionally I have never said that they don’t raise money for vaccines, or they don’t raise money for charities, or that Harry’s the least popular, or ever mentioned whether or not they do their own research. The reason I haven’t mentioned these things is because I simply don’t know whether they’re true or untrue. I simply don’t know! I will also add that I didn’t say Harry is a coward either. I’ve never said anyone is a coward (although I think bullies are, but that’s nothing to do with this.) In actual fact I admired Harry for going to Afghanistan. I believe he had to fight for that, and whilst I don’t know if that’s the case (it was reported at the time) I admired him greatly for doing that. Maybe staying longer in the army would have suited him, I don’t know, but it’s a thought.
What I don’t like is having things attributed to me that I haven’t said. I appreciate you’re rolling everyone into the one post, but I will be very clear here. The only thing I have been critical of with regard to Harry is his behaviour since he left royal life. He has left royal life but he will always be part of his family. I cannot, and never will, understand anyone trashing their family on the world’s television screens. (I’m excluding the obvious cases of abuse here, they are different.) And I have to wonder why Harry has felt the need to do this rather than seeking resolution and conciliation with his father in particular, but possibly with other members of his family.
As a last thought, I want to say that I have an adopted grandchild. As a parent, grandparent, and ex teacher of young children, I think I have at least some understanding of the needs of children. One of the things children need in my humble opinion, is a supportive and loving extended family. We, as a family have tried very hard to ensure that all our grandchildren enjoy this but with regard to our adopted grandchild, we feel it is especially important. Children need grandparents. And cousins. And aunts and uncles. They need their family. Harry had that, even when he so brutally lost his mother at such a young age. He had grandparents, cousins, and aunts and uncles. For these reasons I do wonder why he is denying his own children the same advantage.

It's not compulsory to click and read the comments don't you know BlueBelle not much else going on though is there!