Johnson, Putin, Lebedev, chemical weapons have already been used.

She is an extremely unpleasant individual.

Thanks heavens for Chris Bryant! I read the Oakeshott stuff; she's a right piece of work, happy to ride the Brexit gravy train, badmouth Carole Cadwalldr with the rest of them, and then suddenly, when CC reveals in court the emails which back up her allegations that Aaron Banks has been funded by Russian money......suddenly she is saving her own skin all shocked at the revelations. These people need to be exposed. Interesting note in Wikipedia; Banks married Russian Ekaterina Paderina, with whom he has two sons and a daughter.[15][23] Paderina previously overstayed her visa but married merchant seaman Eric Butler, over twice her age. The three month marriage was investigated due to suspicions it was a sham.[15][83] She is reported to have received help to remain in the UK from Mike Hancock while he was an MP. She received more than help from Hancock. .

Labour's
@RhonddaBryant
calls for
@Arron_banks
to be sanctioned and cites
@IsabelOakeshott
who described Banks as an "agent of influence for the Russian state".

He adds that Nigel Farage received £548,573 in 2018 from Russia Today, which is funded by the Russian government.

GillT57

Irony is dead. Today's Daily Telegraph;

We cannot go on like this. The West must end its dependence on Vladimir Putin
Writing exclusively for the Telegraph, PM says Russian leader has exploited our need for his oil and gas, but now we must take back control

Won't bother putting the link as it is behind a paywall.

So we are bravely going to reject one killer fighting an aggressive war for another killer fighting an aggressive war.

Well done!

Irony is dead. Today's Daily Telegraph;

We cannot go on like this. The West must end its dependence on Vladimir Putin
Writing exclusively for the Telegraph, PM says Russian leader has exploited our need for his oil and gas, but now we must take back control

Won't bother putting the link as it is behind a paywall.

MerylStreep

How did I know that wouldn’t go down well ?
Deviating from the script.

But what you posted wasn't true. Doesn't that matter to you? Is spreading fake news more important than the truth?

On LBC

Guy Verhofstadt - Nigel Farage was defending Putin all the time in the European Parliament... he was colluding with Putin.

volver

Well at least if you had a script you would have got her name right.

?

Well at least if you had a script you would have got her name right.

How did I know that wouldn’t go down well ?
Deviating from the script.

MerylStreep

Evette Cooper didn’t have a problem accepting invitations from Lebvedev or being paid to write articles for the Evening Standard.
To be fair, though, needs must when your husband has lost his job and your the only breadwinner. ?
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10613467/Labour-Shadow-Home-Secretary-Yvette-Cooper-fire-enjoying-number-dinners-Lebedev.html

There is brain-washing and then there is brain-washing

Her husband? You mean her husband the professor, documentary film maker and TV personality?

Evette Cooper didn’t have a problem accepting invitations from Lebvedev or being paid to write articles for the Evening Standard.
To be fair, though, needs must when your husband has lost his job and your the only breadwinner. ?
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10613467/Labour-Shadow-Home-Secretary-Yvette-Cooper-fire-enjoying-number-dinners-Lebedev.html

Carrie Johnson (Symonds) founder member of 'Conservative Friends of Russia'. Nothing to see here, obviously.

Humanity has nothing to do with it. Even in the world wars, when there were some restrictions on what we said, nothing like the current situation in Russia applied.

Lord Lebedev to you, GG13

It’s coming, Monica. As it always does in wartime. Soon all Russians will be branded as the enemy. I don’t think the British are particularly humane, any more than any other nation.

Yes, but in Britain, whatever the government were saying there would be other political parties, other groups who disagreed with the government and were free to say so.

In Russia, if you do not agree with the government line and try to publish different views or form any kind of opposition political party you would soon be in prison or dead, possibly both.

I think Mr. Lebedev has burnt his bridges with Vladimir Putin…

volver

Inappropriate analogy, but here we go anyway:

If a government had spent decades telling you that other countries were out to get you, that they didn't value you and that they just wanted to get something over on you. If they told you the association of other countries were the enemy and you were the good guys. If they told you that everyone was out to get you.

Would you be in Russia or would you be in Brexit Britain?

Sadly it makes the Brits rather more lemming like because at lease we had a choice of media - some more independant than others - which the Russians didn't have.

It's becoming apparent from the various debates on here are that those who supported Johnson, also supported Farage and Trump were generally in favour of Brexit. Some of them are beginning to see the truth about Johnson et al but has that changed their opinions about Brexit and the EU.

Watching Sophie Raworth yesterday morning I thought that the Polish Premier and the Taoiseach were both impressive in the way in which they spoke and their demeanour. Trump and Johnson pale in comparison whenever they speak.

Carole Cadwalldr is the little boy who pointed out that the Emperor was wearing no clothes. Sadly, a lot of grown men decided to bully her, attempt to ruin her professionally and even went as far as pursuing her through the courts.

Carole Cadwalladr
@carolecadwalla
· Mar 13

In 1963, the Profumo Affair rocked Britain.

The Minister for War had an affair with Christine Keeler…who was also involved with Soviet naval attaché.

And at heart of the scandal: how could a minister of state have jeopardised national security so recklessly & carelessly?

Boris Johnson met ex KGB spy immediately after crucial NATO meeting on Russia after it deployed a chemical weapon in a British town.

He had no security. No-one knew.

But he was not sacked or questioned by police or PM.

Because by the time we found it out, he was the PM

GillT57

So, the $64,000 ( haven't got a rouble sign on my laptop) question is? Was Brexit illegally achieved? Why when there were programmes about Trump/Aaron Banks/Steve Bannon/Russian funding, why, if it was out there did people ignore it? Was this why Johnson was so panicked about getting it pushed through? Sorry that is more than one question, but you know what I mean.

I think the answer to that is an unequivocal YES.

But what an astounding achievement on their part! Brexit went from absolute little or no interest by the voter, through the many, many lies told by vote leave, on the back of help from as varied people as Bannon, Bank, Farage, Putin, to getting people to believe the propaganda, just as you can see now in Russia, right through to the vote.

Almost immediately the British voter began to see through the lies and propaganda until now when there is very little support for the exercise.

Little does it matter as they have achieved what they set out to achieve, and on the way learned some very useful knowledge about how propaganda works and the manipulation of social media.

So, the $64,000 ( haven't got a rouble sign on my laptop) question is? Was Brexit illegally achieved? Why when there were programmes about Trump/Aaron Banks/Steve Bannon/Russian funding, why, if it was out there did people ignore it? Was this why Johnson was so panicked about getting it pushed through? Sorry that is more than one question, but you know what I mean.