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Are the Royal Family losing their touch?

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volver Sun 03-Apr-22 16:22:31

A couple of weeks ago we had the disastrous PR associated with the Caribbean tour, and now the judgement of the Queen is being questioned, for giving Prince Andrew such a prominent role in the Duke of Edinburgh's memorial service.

The position of the Royal Family depends very strongly on their acceptance by, and the support of, the public both here and overseas; are they losing that?

Jane43 Sat 09-Apr-22 22:40:13

I agree with you Grany, royal tours are a very outdated concept as the criticism of William and Catherine’s visit to the Caribbean showed. When Charles takes over and carries out his ideas to slim down the monarchy and more countries leave the Commonwealth they will inevitably become a thing of the past.

Grany Sat 09-Apr-22 22:25:35

If he was innocent he would want to have his day in court to clear his name.

Princess Anne is currently visiting Australia - a visit that could potentially cost Australian taxpayers an extraordinary amount.

With royal tours costing us in excess of $6 million since 2011 - there’s no reason someone from one of the wealthiest families in the world should make you pay their bill.

Aussies are living through a pandemic and taxpayer dollars should be spent on essentials like healthcare - not five star hotels and extravagant dinners.

paddyann54 Sat 09-Apr-22 21:55:51

He may not have been found guilty ,but why would he pay millions to a woman he claimed he had never met if he wasn't hiding some vile secret.Of course he just thought handing over a huge amount of his mothers money would make it all go away.....no chance ,he's guilty as sin

volver Sat 09-Apr-22 19:42:11

A few weeks ago I might have agreed with your first sentence varian, but now:

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/02/naive-or-blinded-by-affection-either-way-time-queen-hung-up-her-crown

varian Sat 09-Apr-22 19:37:54

I think the Queen will never be criticised. She is held in too much respect.

However she will die some day and then much may change.

nadateturbe Sat 09-Apr-22 18:11:05

She's not just a mother though, and that makes a difference.

Boz Sat 09-Apr-22 17:25:03

Sorry Anniebach but can't remember. Probably reported as something he said in private but it has the ring of truth about it for me.

Anniebach Sat 09-Apr-22 17:17:26

Boz when did Charles that and to whom ? In a speech or to
‘A royal expert’ ?

Boz Sat 09-Apr-22 16:45:53

No. Is it about time for a new Regency era? She doesn't have to abdicate only hand over the reins (I think).

volver Sat 09-Apr-22 16:42:06

Hardly a good strategy for a Head of State though confused

Boz Sat 09-Apr-22 16:34:03

Prince Charles has said of his mother that she sees only what she wants to see. Probably the recipe for a long life as ignorance (the deliberate sort) is bliss

Anniebach Sat 09-Apr-22 16:14:33

I disagree nadateturbe is she the first mother to believe her child ? And he has not been found guilty

nadateturbe Sat 09-Apr-22 16:03:24

I don't see how that is relevant Anniebach. I think it was an arrogant decision. A bad one.

Franbern Sat 09-Apr-22 15:56:39

JaneJudge

My Mum wouldn't let me write to Jimmy Saville, she said she didn't like how he touched the children.

Like your Mum, I found JS on tv very cringe worthy,. I actually banned my children from watching his show - they thought I was horrible for doing that. But - Yes, - there was something about him that was always suspicious. Seems strange that it took those in power to see through him.

However, must admit that I never saw or felt that with regard to Rolf Harris. So, even my 6th sense missed that.

As for the Royal Family, I will say here, what I said when Diane was killed with her lover - that I think of them as often as they think about me!!!

Did twice refuse an invite to what was called a Royal Garden party, back in the 1970's. The idea of standing in a muddy field in the middle of London did not appeal to me.

There are many good republican countries in world, Just to look at the disasterous USA system and then condemn the whole idea is very blinkered.

Anniebach Sat 09-Apr-22 15:35:24

That’s possible, she must be so use to lies about herself and her
family, can she blamed if she thinks it more media lies.

Callistemon21 Sat 09-Apr-22 15:22:57

I think she just totally believes in his innocence and he has persuaded her that he was unaware of Epstein's and Maxwell's lifestyle.

Bridgeit Sat 09-Apr-22 15:07:26

I think the Queen took a gamble & that she hopes she is still held in enough affection by the general public to let the P.Andrew situation go ,even if not forgotten.

Anniebach Sat 09-Apr-22 14:56:49

Yes , a single son not a married son.

nadateturbe Sat 09-Apr-22 14:53:32

I agree with wicklowwinnie. It was a very deliberate choice Anniebach.

Anniebach Sat 09-Apr-22 14:49:01

Really? I saw a woman attending a memorial service and was
helped to walk a distance by one of her children who then took
a seat with his siblings.

wicklowwinnie Sat 09-Apr-22 14:18:39

I think the Queen has lost a lot of respect since her appearance at the Prince Philip memorial with Prince Andrew.
It was almost as though she was saying I am accepting him and so will the rest of you.!!

Callistemon21 Sat 09-Apr-22 14:03:13

maddyone

I thought that Scotland wants to retain the monarchy if it becomes independent.

Yes, if we still have one.

paddyann54 Sat 09-Apr-22 13:57:08

Sorry about the repeat ,dont know what happened

paddyann54 Sat 09-Apr-22 13:56:23

BRITAIN isn't a country Aveline I'm sure you are aware of that ,GREAT Britain is just the island that 3 of the four nations of the UK are housed on .








Britain isn't a country Aveline as I'm sure you know ,Great Britan is just part of a group of Islands where 3 of the 4 nations o f the UK are housed .I think the FOUR NATIONS explains that, not 4 states FOUR seperate NATIONS


There is NO British nationality thats a concept that is

volver Sat 09-Apr-22 13:48:25

Of course it does maddyone, you're right.

But when has the truth ever stopped people having a go? wink