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It's now or never for the planet

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GrannyGravy13 Tue 05-Apr-22 09:55:27

It is important, but anything done by any country unilaterally will make little if no difference.

Every Country on Planet Earth needs to take action, not just pay lip service to the agreement’s made during COP.

Many folk are doing what they can for the planet, but again unless we stop buying and that includes technology we are heading into an unknown scenario, one which I think will be extremely unpleasant for a large section of Earths population.

Who is willing not to have mobile phones, laptops, TV’s with all the streaming channels, latest trainers, jeans etc. Who can afford an electric car (or the electricity to charge it).

The planet is still being plundered for its resources and I cannot see any appetite for frugality amongst the populace.

Coastpath Tue 05-Apr-22 09:54:43

Beggaring this country and its people for nought!

Becoming self sufficient in renewable energy will not beggar this country but will ensure an independent future without reliance on countries such a Russia for our energy.

Coastpath Tue 05-Apr-22 09:49:55

If yesterday's reports are anything to go by the answer is no.

Producing more gas and oil is on the table and wind farms are to be rejected as they are, according to Grant Shapps, 'An eyesore'.
inews.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-new-dawn-nuclear-energy-cabinet-split-planning-reform-wind-farms-1555156

One ray of hope is that the muppet Farage's (Russian oil and gas backed??) attempts to discredit net zero don't seem to be gaining the blind support he perhaps hoped for.
inews.co.uk/news/environment/nigel-farage-fails-convince-conservative-voters-ditch-net-zero-climate-change-1552609

I didn't reply earlier as the war in Ukraine occupied 90% of my thoughts yesterday. Perhaps it was that rather than disinterest that caused the lack of replies. Thanks for raising this Daisymae.

volver Tue 05-Apr-22 09:46:05

Urmstongran

Any reduction in driving that we, in the UK, might achieve will be wiped out many times over by the opening of new coal-fired power stations in India and China.

(Some) Scientists telling everyone what to do over a massively exaggerated threat again. No thanks, had enough of that with Covid. Anyone might think with all this hyperbole the Covid scientists and modellers from Imperial College we’re having a dry run.

Can't let that stand without comment, sorry.

I think what you mean is:

Every serious scientist who isn't in the pay of big oil laying out the facts of what is going to happen.

Do not pretend this is a hoax.

volver Tue 05-Apr-22 09:42:40

Of course our government's not trying. They want to open new fossil fuel sources.

And this China of which you speak? Is that the China that is devoting more research money than any other country to their renewables program?

LadyGracie Tue 05-Apr-22 09:41:32

Unless other nations join in there is no point in this country ‘bothering’. Beggaring this country and its people for nought!

vegansrock Tue 05-Apr-22 09:38:45

Oh well let’s not bother and just wait till half the planet is inhabitable as we will be long gone and to hell with the generations to follow.

Urmstongran Tue 05-Apr-22 09:34:14

Any reduction in driving that we, in the UK, might achieve will be wiped out many times over by the opening of new coal-fired power stations in India and China.

(Some) Scientists telling everyone what to do over a massively exaggerated threat again. No thanks, had enough of that with Covid. Anyone might think with all this hyperbole the Covid scientists and modellers from Imperial College we’re having a dry run.

Pepper59 Tue 05-Apr-22 09:33:18

Well, they really need to tell China, India and Russia. I think our various governments are trying, but I really am sick of getting preached to while all these other countries do exactly as they please. Remember CopOut26? What a waste of time and money that was, and to my knowledge countries gave it "all that", but so easy to talk the talk and not walk the walk. The UK is trying to do it's best, time for other countries to step up to the plate. This is only my personal opinion.

volver Tue 05-Apr-22 09:07:44

I'm surprised that you haven't had an answer yet Daisymae.

But I think that shows how this isn't really at the top of anybody's mind and confirms to me that the chance of any government taking the action needed is pretty slim. It will be put off and put off until it is too late.

Daisymae Mon 04-Apr-22 17:09:59

www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/apr/04/ipcc-report-now-or-never-if-world-stave-off-climate-disaster?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
Is there any chance that any government will take the action that's needed to avoid a climate catastrophy? Currently emissions are still rising.