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Who next for PM?

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DaisyAnne Wed 13-Apr-22 09:11:03

Listening to the closing interview on Today they seem to think nothing will happen until after the May Local Elections.

The suggestion was that, if Johnson is defenestrated, the next PM could not be from the current Cabinet as they are now all tarred with backing Johnson. Hunt name was the only one they could suggest.

What are your thoughts? I can't see how, if he goes, the government can continue but I do understand I have an underlying bias.

Casdon Sun 17-Apr-22 17:47:52

DaisyAnne I don’t disagree with what you’ve said, but I do think the government have miscalculated. The red wall seats will be lost because of the severe stress on household budgets due to the energy price rises, and inflation. People care about immigration, but not as much as they care about being able to feed their families and heat their homes.

CarlyD7 Sun 17-Apr-22 17:41:11

Please not Nadine Dorries ! She's about to sell off Channel 4 so that their pals can get their hands on it (and its advertisement revenue) and turn it into yet another Netflix, and says that the BBC is next. God only knows what she'd sell off if she was PM rather than just the Culture Secretary.

DaisyAnne Sun 17-Apr-22 17:39:17

The Tories, like Putin, see the virtue in power and we know what Putin is prepared to do for power. The Tories are of the same character. While they believe Johnson can win them the Red Wall seats and, therefore, a majority, they will keep him on whatever he does.

They have already abandoned their core voters. It is the Red Wall or nothing. Hence the recent debacle over the Rwanda Solution. It matters to individuals that this is a hateful suggestion that will cost us billions if it goes through. That doesn't matter to Johnson. Why? Because it will win Red Wall Votes. The Party will see this and, appalling though he is, he will stay.

He will only go if he loses Red Wall seats in the local elections. No matter that he will lose votes from conscientious life-long Conservatives. Their votes won't give him the majority the party bought him for. And bought him is what they have done. In many ways, he has and will cost them dearly. They will lose the votes of the young for decades - but they will look for another Johnson to appeal to them. And the staid old lifetime Tories will always be there to pick up the tab.

GeorgieH Sun 17-Apr-22 17:36:56

This is the attitude they (the establishment) want.
Fewer people voting has been shown to give advantage to right-wing parties (who have been in power in Scotland and Westminster for at least a decade)!
Please vote - or -
Spoil it to show your dismay if you like, but do vote.

varian Sun 17-Apr-22 17:30:16

None of the recent cabinet have the decency and integrity we require in a PM.

Johnson has a government of yesmen amd yeswomen like Nadine Dorries who had the nerve to say in one interview " the prime minister always tells the truth"

We need a clean sweep,.

A general election.

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 17-Apr-22 17:21:59

I have never taken to SJ. I’ve lost count of the number of times he’s said his father was a bus driver. So what?

scrapgran Sun 17-Apr-22 17:14:48

Sajid Javid seems to have moral scruples and he does answer questions when asked. he also tells the truth as it is and he cannot turn the NHS round overnight.

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 17-Apr-22 17:12:37

He’s decided he doesn’t want to be a Conservative. I would have no respect for him if his principles are so weak that he asks to be re admitted so he can be PM.

StillNotGinger Sun 17-Apr-22 16:48:22

Stewart may be tempted if he's in sight of the Top Prize with actual power.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 17-Apr-22 16:41:29

StillNotGinger

Rory Stewart
Yes I know he's not an MP but they could make him a Lord and bump him over.
I may have been fooled but he does seem to be like the old school sort of decent Tory.

Stuart is no longer a Tory, and I suspect has no wish to become a member once again.

StillNotGinger Sun 17-Apr-22 16:38:34

Jeremy Hunt is competent but can you really forgive him for his time as Health Secretary? He defunded the NHS and failed to respond to the clear lack of preparation for a pandemic that was a known risk (including all that out-of-date PPE) He is at least partly responsible for the 150000 Covid deaths.

StillNotGinger Sun 17-Apr-22 16:30:41

Rory Stewart
Yes I know he's not an MP but they could make him a Lord and bump him over.
I may have been fooled but he does seem to be like the old school sort of decent Tory.

Blossoming Sun 17-Apr-22 16:05:06

Nicola Sturgeon.

MayBee70 Sun 17-Apr-22 15:00:57

Germanshepherdsmum

Don’t you think there might be some security problems around the PM or a member of the cabinet offering space in their home to refugees?

I know. They might, unlike the PM, have links with Russia….oh, hang on a minute….

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 17-Apr-22 14:58:30

Don’t you think there might be some security problems around the PM or a member of the cabinet offering space in their home to refugees?

Daftbag1 Sun 17-Apr-22 14:53:55

Sadly, it all irrelevant, BJ won't step down or be kicked out, anymore than his side kicks Rishi or that revolting woman who has decided to make a deal with the same country BJ was accusing of things to manage the immigration issues, (sorry I have aphasia and it's bad today), in relation to human rights

But interestingly Neither BJ or his pals have offered a room to Ukrainian family's

Whitewavemark2 Sun 17-Apr-22 14:50:06

I think the issue is that we have seen the Tory government slid ever deeper into incompetence, lies, corruption and crime.

This is not what the U.K. is but we are stuck with them. They badly need to lose and then get their house into order.

Keffie12 Sun 17-Apr-22 14:40:18

There isn't anyone. We have a right wing, populist government. All the moderates were got rid of at the last election and this is what 43% of those who voted wanted.

Sunak was the only plausible one who wasn't tainted. He now is.

My own view is we need a general election. That's 2 years away so we are stuck with whatever corrupt person they vote in next

Katie59 Sun 17-Apr-22 14:25:49

coastalgran

Ruth Davidson should have stayed on and she would have ended up with the job even although she was the Conservative leader in Scotland. There would have been no nonsense from Ruth a good Fifer schooled in the mining town of Buckhaven at the local High School, ex forces who even took the Church of Scotland to task over her want to marry her female partner and other mum to Finn. She would be ideal for the job.

You are joking of course

Aren't you!

volver Sun 17-Apr-22 14:18:45

Nooooo!!!!

???

coastalgran Sun 17-Apr-22 14:17:03

Ruth Davidson should have stayed on and she would have ended up with the job even although she was the Conservative leader in Scotland. There would have been no nonsense from Ruth a good Fifer schooled in the mining town of Buckhaven at the local High School, ex forces who even took the Church of Scotland to task over her want to marry her female partner and other mum to Finn. She would be ideal for the job.

MayBee70 Sun 17-Apr-22 14:16:11

Hunt was health secretary when operation Cygnus showed that the country wouldn’t be able to deal with a future pandemic. He ignored it. His saving grace is that, unlike most of the potential candidates, he looks and speaks like a real person and not a caricature of one.

Allsorts Sun 17-Apr-22 14:13:35

Someone not around at the moment. Can’t think of anyone. You need a motivating orator, intelligent, not afraid of the opposition or his own party, yet. listens to what people care about. Chooses his battles and not browbeaten by the mob brigade, who only ever focus on an insignificant thing and blow it up out of all proportion, what a waste of energy, completely missing the things that are vital.l

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 17-Apr-22 14:06:13

I wanted Jeremy Hunt to win the last leadership election. Not Boris. When I voted Conservative at the last general election it was not a vote for Boris but for the party. I’d like Hunt to be PM. Sensible man with integrity who doesn’t showboat.

Lupin Sun 17-Apr-22 14:00:56

My vote would go to Jeremy Hunt.. He seems sober enough of nature not to put his foot into his mouth and not to take foolish behavioural risks, and has served well in various roles since 2007. He has long serving ministerial experience, although he is wasted where he now is. I think Boris can't stand the competition. His constituents like him and yes, I know it's a safe Tory seat. During the last competition for Tory leader I heard it said of him that he had the necessary grasp of what was going on across the ministries.
In the last election I could not vote for Boris. The warnings were all out there about his disloyalty and lies. Neither could I vote for Jeremy Corbin. I would gladly have voted Tory if Hunt had been their leader, and I am one of those who votes for whichever party seems the best qualified to run the country at that moment.