Who next for PM?

I don’t think we live in a truly democratic country. FPTP can never be truly democratic.

But volver you have the advantage of living in Scotland where the electoral system for the Scottish Parliament is more, (although not perfectly) proportional.

True varian, but the SNP could come on TV tomorrow and tell us there has been a leadership contest and Humza Yousaf was FM now, and there's nothing to prevent them doing that, that's allowed.

volver

I'm not sure I'm with you on that varian. The PM is meant to be a first among equals (to quote a certain novelist) but since Blair they have started to behave like presidents. Now we get people saying they are voting for Boris when they are doing no such thing. The Tories can can choose who they like to lead the party, and they can change who that is any time they like.

But volver you have the advantage of living in Scotland where the electoral system for the Scottish Parliament is more, (although not perfectly) proportional.

The UK parliament is elected by a minority of voters giving an obscene majority of MPs and they impose whatever they like on us, and whoever they chose as their leader until the next election.

None of this would ever happen in a democratic country.

and Nadine Dories doesn't even live in her constituency

It concerns me that many people don’t appear to understand that they are voting for whoever is standing in their area, and unless they happen to live in the party leader’s constituency, they cannot vote for the leader of any particular party.

So sorry Rory Stewart left the stage.

If Truss or Dorries get the job im going with Bluebelle!!
An outsider choice...always seems competent in interviews...Tobias Ellwood.

I'm not sure I'm with you on that varian. The PM is meant to be a first among equals (to quote a certain novelist) but since Blair they have started to behave like presidents. Now we get people saying they are voting for Boris when they are doing no such thing. The Tories can can choose who they like to lead the party, and they can change who that is any time they like.

Frankly, I have absolutely no idea.

Is there not something fundamentally wrong with a system that allows a few hundred Tory MPs, elected by an undemocratic FPTP voting system to chose our PM?

BlueBelle

If Truss gets it I m emigrating to Denmark

I wish I could ... or anywhere.

If Truss gets it I m emigrating to Denmark

Allsorts

There’s no one else up to it, simple as that.

Why is Tugendhat any "less up to it" than Johnson?

Allsorts

There’s no one else up to it, simple as that.

So what you’re saying Allsorts is that thePM has surrounded himself with incompetents, and there are no other Tory MPs who are up to the job either. I’d consider changing my vote if I felt as despairing.

DiamondLily

DaisyAnne

varian

I agree OakDryad

Denmark is a true democracy, as are all the other European countries except for the two which elect majority governments supported by a minority of voters, using FPTP - UK and Belarus.

I'm another who is all for PR. I'm sorry to repeat what I have said elsewhere but the two larger parties are perpetual coalitions. Their smaller entities rarely agree about anything except that they want to be in power.

I think we should be able to choose what parties make up our coalitions and not be limited in this way.

There was a vote, during the 2010 coalition, to change our voting system.

The majority voted to leave it as it was.

"The decision by the people who voted was a decisive "No" vote to adopting the alternative vote system in future United Kingdom general elections by a majority of 6,860,516 votes over those who had voted "Yes" in favor of the proposal."

Not much chance of changing it.

No point in going into the detail but no referendum is final. I do wonder where that idea comes from.

Jeremy Hunt is probably the only worthwhile candidate although he was a dreadful Health Minister. Truss and Doris are appalling. Doris spends all her time smirking at Johnson and Truss is trying too hard to be Mrs Thatch. I have heard it said that Gove is still the only really reliable Minister and he gets things done. He’s a back stabber though and I assume is still getting used to his new ‘lifestyle’.

DaisyAnne

varian

I agree OakDryad

Denmark is a true democracy, as are all the other European countries except for the two which elect majority governments supported by a minority of voters, using FPTP - UK and Belarus.

I'm another who is all for PR. I'm sorry to repeat what I have said elsewhere but the two larger parties are perpetual coalitions. Their smaller entities rarely agree about anything except that they want to be in power.

I think we should be able to choose what parties make up our coalitions and not be limited in this way.

There was a vote, during the 2010 coalition, to change our voting system.

The majority voted to leave it as it was.

"The decision by the people who voted was a decisive "No" vote to adopting the alternative vote system in future United Kingdom general elections by a majority of 6,860,516 votes over those who had voted "Yes" in favor of the proposal."

Not much chance of changing it.

There’s no one else up to it, simple as that.

Anyone at all, please...

the chuckle brothers or bodger and badger

The latest from Sky News:
Mr Sunak is now at 12/1 to replace the PM, falling from recent odds of 3/1.
In contrast, Foreign Secretary Ms Truss has shot ahead at 11/2.
Meanwhile, Mr Johnson is at 5/2 to step down as PM this year - and 16/5 to resign by the end of 2023.

He doesn't look as if he has held any ministerial offices WWM. That may, of course, be a good thing.

Whitewavemark2

Nick??????

Tom Tugendhat is now 2nd favorite to replace Johnson if there was a leadership election.

A former soldier, with little time for culture wars, he would be one of the few capable, sane & decent Tory MPs who could command the support of the house at this time.

I do think he is a man of integrity, but is it ok to have a PM with dual nationality French/British after the debacle of the last couple of weeks regarding green cards and non-dom spouses?

I would feel happier if he relinquished his French Nationality, then we could be assured that he would put the U.K. first and foremost.

Nick??????

Tom Tugendhat is now 2nd favorite to replace Johnson if there was a leadership election.

A former soldier, with little time for culture wars, he would be one of the few capable, sane & decent Tory MPs who could command the support of the house at this time.

varian

I agree OakDryad

Denmark is a true democracy, as are all the other European countries except for the two which elect majority governments supported by a minority of voters, using FPTP - UK and Belarus.

I'm another who is all for PR. I'm sorry to repeat what I have said elsewhere but the two larger parties are perpetual coalitions. Their smaller entities rarely agree about anything except that they want to be in power.

I think we should be able to choose what parties make up our coalitions and not be limited in this way.