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Who next for PM?

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DaisyAnne Wed 13-Apr-22 09:11:03

Listening to the closing interview on Today they seem to think nothing will happen until after the May Local Elections.

The suggestion was that, if Johnson is defenestrated, the next PM could not be from the current Cabinet as they are now all tarred with backing Johnson. Hunt name was the only one they could suggest.

What are your thoughts? I can't see how, if he goes, the government can continue but I do understand I have an underlying bias.

growstuff Sun 24-Apr-22 04:20:19

MayBee70

Won’t there have to be an enquiry into the governments handling of the pandemic before the next election? Or are they banking on the fact that people have forgotten about it now that they seem to be ignoring the fact that it hasn’t actually gone away?

Unfortunately, the answer to your second question is probably "yes". Furthermore, some people even think the government has handled the pandemic well and the government's PR machine will ensure that people only remember the good bits (rolling out vaccines) and forget the details.

Grannynebard Sun 24-Apr-22 01:59:07

I've never been interested in Politics b4, from what I've witnessed and lived through, my conclusion is it doesn't matter who or what party gets voted they all piss in the same pot!!!
The job should be given to people who haven't gone to Eton and been fed from a silver spoon.
Quite simple make the hourly rate the same as what a care worker gets. Fuel allowance and uniforms cleaned. Soon find out who really wants the job!!!!!

MayBee70 Sat 23-Apr-22 14:42:01

Won’t there have to be an enquiry into the governments handling of the pandemic before the next election? Or are they banking on the fact that people have forgotten about it now that they seem to be ignoring the fact that it hasn’t actually gone away?

Whitewavemark2 Sat 23-Apr-22 12:35:43

Group of influential Conservative MPs are forming around Jeremy Hunt in attempt to stop Liz Truss & “sideline Tom Tugendhat”.

Tugendhat is seen as good enough to get a 2nd placing but MPs worried members will vote Truss - widely regarded as stupid & friendless by MPs.

Pumpkinpie Tue 19-Apr-22 17:43:10

Anyone but the conservatives. All of them at the moment seem to lack any moral compass

Mildmanneredgran Tue 19-Apr-22 09:15:34

Tobias Elwood, please

grannydarkhair Tue 19-Apr-22 01:03:08

“Those Who Seek Power Are Not Worthy Of That Power”, Plato. Certainly true of a lot of our current bunch in Westminster. I’m in Scotland, and imo, it’s also true of a lot of our SMPs. My heart sinks at the thought of BJ staying as PM, but I’ll be honest and say that I have no idea who from the current Cabinet would be any better.

DaisyAnne Tue 19-Apr-22 00:44:11

I wonder if Rory Stewart is banking on the Tory party splitting. It might be the only thing that saves it when it sinks.

MaizieD Mon 18-Apr-22 23:04:38

Jeremy Hunt was all for privatising the NHS. I doubt he's changed.

MayBee70 Mon 18-Apr-22 22:45:22

Joybel

What has Jeremy Hunt done wrong to blot his chances?

He’s been quite clever. Criticising Johnson occasionally but keeping quiet on some issues. But this government seems to be about either protecting Johnson or various MP’s furthering their own political career. None of them seem to care about the country and it’s people.

Joybel Mon 18-Apr-22 22:19:33

What has Jeremy Hunt done wrong to blot his chances?

dorcas1950 Mon 18-Apr-22 18:27:20

Ben Wallace.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 18-Apr-22 15:22:50

Rory Stewart

Every day that Boris Johnson remains tarnishes his party and the office of the Prime-Minister.
Removing him is not only the ethical thing for Conservative MPs to do.
It is also profoundly in their long-term interest.

patrish Mon 18-Apr-22 14:38:09

since when did you have to go to a comprehensive school to be normal-and,yes ,I did go to one

RVK1CR Mon 18-Apr-22 11:10:08

Purplepixie

I think the whole lot should be sacked and start again.What a shower of s****!

They only got in because there was no credible opposition, still isn't, Mr Hindsight would be out of his depth. I think you have to go back to Thatcher to get a decent leader and she wasn't perfect. What a shower of * is about right

MayBee70 Sun 17-Apr-22 22:31:43

I was pondering all this when I was walking the dog this afternoon. I think that the ConservativeParty(which is now the save big dog party) have worked out how long something remains in the electorates collective consciousness ( with the exception of Blair and Iraq and LibDems and tuition fees for some reason). And it’s probably a couple of years. Which is why they’ve realised that the Red Wall voters have probably forgotten why they voted for them. So they have to remind them about immigration and why everything can be blamed on ‘furriners’. Hence Rwanda.

mar76 Sun 17-Apr-22 22:28:29

Nadine Dorries. Boris Johnson's Yes Woman who is Brexiter culture secretary didn't even know what the customs union was. God help us.

growstuff Sun 17-Apr-22 22:00:21

Casdon

DaisyAnne I don’t disagree with what you’ve said, but I do think the government have miscalculated. The red wall seats will be lost because of the severe stress on household budgets due to the energy price rises, and inflation. People care about immigration, but not as much as they care about being able to feed their families and heat their homes.

It depends! If the Conservatives' focus groups have discovered that people blame the cost of living increases on immigrants, they're on to a winner.

RVK1CR Sun 17-Apr-22 20:03:01

BigBertha1

Not Jeremy Hunt please. Richy Rich has blotted his copybook now.

He is now Fishy Richy - become non dom and don't pay tax (wife)

DaisyAnne Sun 17-Apr-22 19:28:01

Casdon

DaisyAnne I don’t disagree with what you’ve said, but I do think the government have miscalculated. The red wall seats will be lost because of the severe stress on household budgets due to the energy price rises, and inflation. People care about immigration, but not as much as they care about being able to feed their families and heat their homes.

I do hope you are right Casdon because I feel that is all that would remove him.

Visgir1 Sun 17-Apr-22 19:11:34

Purplepixie

I think the whole lot should be sacked and start again.What a shower of s****!

You have to wait until May 2024 when they will call the next one.
I would put money on no GE much before that date.

varian Sun 17-Apr-22 18:35:46

If only we lived in a true democracy where no government could be elected with a huge majority of MPs on the basis of a minority of votes.

As it stands in our sham democracy we are reduced to the status of the poor citizens of Belarus who have to contend with a dictatorship elected by FPTP.

Who cares which Johnson poodle might be the next PM?

It should not be for the corrupt and incompetent Tory party to chose who leads our country.

We need wholesale constitutional reform to change the UK into a true democracy, voting on the basis of proportional representation.

Soniah Sun 17-Apr-22 17:55:59

Nadine Dorries? Liz Truss? God help us all!

Purplepixie Sun 17-Apr-22 17:49:48

I think the whole lot should be sacked and start again.What a shower of s****!

CarlyD7 Sun 17-Apr-22 17:49:18

It's hard to believe that with the thousands of people involved in politics, Johnson is the best we can do as PM (I'm sure that Americans thought the same when Trump made it to the White House). This shows a fundamental problem with our political systems. Time we all looked at proportional representation again - first past the post is a travesty of democracy. I would also bring in State funding for political parties (so that they weren't allowed to take funds from those who want to benefit themselves rather than benefit the majority of the population); have quotas drawn up so that when MPs are being selected a good proportion have to be from ordinary backgrounds (and not the usual Eton crowd, who haven't a clue about ordinary people's lives), and a system where candidates are called to account when they are shown to have LIED during an election - perhaps even the results being declared void. I have never, in my life, seen a politician lie so long and so often throughout his political life and suffer no consequence as BJ does - if he can get away with it, I shudder to think what's ahead for us all.