Sending U.K. refugees to Rawanda

Germanshepherdsmum

^The people with the least to fear from brown faces are the most fearful^.
Who’s fearful of them? Except those who room around in gangs and commit crimes as I’ve already said. But I fear for the futures of our own poor when the local authorities charged with housing them decently and educating their children have to spend enormous amounts on asylum seekers instead.

I thought Tories believed people were responsible for themselves. How come, all of a sudden, local authorities are responsible for them?

From what Germanshepherdsmum, JaneJudge and Coastpath say, it seems that perhaps men are the problem, never mind what colour their skins may be...

Germanshepherdsmum

^The people with the least to fear from brown faces are the most fearful^.
Who’s fearful of them? Except those who room around in gangs and commit crimes as I’ve already said. But I fear for the futures of our own poor when the local authorities charged with housing them decently and educating their children have to spend enormous amounts on asylum seekers instead.

A number of "our own poor" have brown faces.

LauraNorderr, you deserve credit for sticking your head above the parapet as a previous Tory voter and saying that you find the current policy unacceptable. Unlike some of the dyed-in-the-wool Tories of the My-Party-Right-or-Wrong tendency on GN, you have obviously given the matter some thought, and I realise that it must have been difficult for you.

In my local town I am more worried about the white, British men who come to holiday in the Butlins and walk along the high street with their families wearing 'Fit in or F*ck Off* T-shirts.

In my local town I am more worried the white men who don't work and take drugs and drink and intimidate people but they are still a failure of the system here, care leavers, those that were not supported properly at school because ADHD didn't exist etc

The people with the least to fear from brown faces are the most fearful.
Who’s fearful of them? Except those who room around in gangs and commit crimes as I’ve already said. But I fear for the futures of our own poor when the local authorities charged with housing them decently and educating their children have to spend enormous amounts on asylum seekers instead.

We have never been a tolerant nation, just like to kid ourselves we are. Plenty racism, misogyny and religious bigotry where I grew up. For some reason though no one likes to admit it.

Boz

It maybe illegal or immoral but,I am afraid, a vote winner when the May Elections are looming. The Brexiteers will like it and they are Johnson'a main political lifeline.

I am sorry to say that I agree with Boz. I wish it was otherwise, but the mindset that welcomes government backed trafficking of men to Rwanda will happily keep Johnson in power and overlook his illegal shenanigans. He has certainly “ played a blinder” but I don’t want my hard earned tax payer’s money going to Rwanda to save the PM’s skin. Fortunately, I live in a part of the UK where the Conservatives are not revered. Unfortunately, when it comes to general elections, I live in the UK.

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Urmstongran

Perhaps it would be a good idea to put a slogan on the side of a red bus?

“£350 million a week supporting migrants in the UK. Shall we try something different?”

Would it be true? Or doesn't that matter i your world?

volver

^True up to a point. But I do think that the British people in general are far too decent to allow this to happen. We used to be one of the most tolerant countries in the world. What went wrong?^

Is it fear? Selfishness? Lack of understanding for how the world is? Maybe we've always been this way but we've never had a government that was as wiling to exploit it as this lot are? I would love to know.

I think it's a survival instinct. People under pressure put themselves first (understandably) and don't have the emotional energy to care about anybody else, especially "others". They've been told the "others" are getting a better deal than they are. They might care about their "tribe" (ie people like them) but that's about it. So-called liberalism (with a small 'l') is only for those who can afford it - that's been the narrative for years.

Perhaps it would be a good idea to put a slogan on the side of a red bus?

“£350 million a week supporting migrants in the UK. Shall we try something different?”

Dinahmo

I agree with Boz and MayBe70 . We used to be a tolerant nation but sadly are no longer. Not sure what the answer is, apart from putting something in the drinking water perhaps!

I don't know if we are less tolerant as a nation, but what we have now is a government (and party) which has put cultural wars at the top of the agenda, so anything which united us has been forgotten.

This is a ploy to open up the cultural rifts which were exposed by Brexit - just in time for the local elections.

That’s assuming that they are.

Now that’s an interesting question. What has made people in the UK less tolerant?

I agree with Boz and MayBe70 . We used to be a tolerant nation but sadly are no longer. Not sure what the answer is, apart from putting something in the drinking water perhaps!

True up to a point. But I do think that the British people in general are far too decent to allow this to happen. We used to be one of the most tolerant countries in the world. What went wrong?

Is it fear? Selfishness? Lack of understanding for how the world is? Maybe we've always been this way but we've never had a government that was as wiling to exploit it as this lot are? I would love to know.

Dinahmo

I checked the results for the first round of the French presidential election in my commune. M Le P came first, followed closely by Melenchon. Only a couple of points between them and Macron was third with over 20 points less. We live in a very rural area with no sign of any immigrants apart from the obvious (Brits, Dutch, Belgians, Americans) so I asked a French friend. His response was they were voting against brown faces, even though there are none.

It happens in the UK too. The people with the least to fear from "brown faces" are the most fearful.

Boz

But true!

Is it? Are you sure? Not everybody is like you or (presumably) the people with whom you're in contact.

I checked the results for the first round of the French presidential election in my commune. M Le P came first, followed closely by Melenchon. Only a couple of points between them and Macron was third with over 20 points less. We live in a very rural area with no sign of any immigrants apart from the obvious (Brits, Dutch, Belgians, Americans) so I asked a French friend. His response was they were voting against brown faces, even though there are none.

Sad to say I agree with Boz about a certain group of people thinking this is the way to do things. Look at this thread.

I just hope that there are enough decent people to overwhelm that vote.

Got to say, the Tories' prospects aren't looking good in Scotland right now.

But true!

Boz

It maybe illegal or immoral but,I am afraid, a vote winner when the May Elections are looming. The Brexiteers will like it and they are Johnson'a main political lifeline.

True up to a point. But I do think that the British people in general are far too decent to allow this to happen. We used to be one of the most tolerant countries in the world. What went wrong?