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Queens Speech

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Daisymae Mon 09-May-22 10:57:50

According to that well known publication of all things in the news ?, otherwise known as The Mail, HRH us going to decide at the 11th hour whether or not she will be able to deliver the said speech. I'm sure she doesn't care what I think, but it would seem time for Charles to take up the slack.

vegansrock Tue 10-May-22 06:25:31

I’m not sure why the queen’s health is “ none of our business” when we expect photos of all the family , including children, at every opportunity, and we pay for their lifestyle, keep them in crown jewels and fur robes. You can’t have it both ways. She is an unelected Head of State who is unable to fulfil her role- we should know why. We know she is of a great age when anyone would be frail and need assistance to do many tasks. Why not come out and say so or just retire gracefully?

DiamondLily Tue 10-May-22 04:50:04

She's not going.

Charles and William are doing the job instead.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10798363/The-Queen-96-miss-State-Opening-Parliament-tomorrow-mobility-issues.html

Smileless2012 Mon 09-May-22 23:13:47

I agree Libman. Her Platinum Jubilee is an amazing achievement and IMO she deserves to be able to celebrate it.

Libman Mon 09-May-22 23:00:44

I think if we didn’t have the Jubilee looming, she would have already stepped down. I expect there to be an announcement afterwards but after all her years of service, I feel we should at least accept that she deserves to stay, in whatever capacity, until then. It’s only a few weeks after all.

volver Mon 09-May-22 22:34:07

MawtheMerrier

I’m wondering about something more sinister- bone cancer in her spine, or some sort of disc/spinal problem ? Acute osteoporosis?
I’m sad some seem to be losing sympathy, I am still convinced that she would struggle on if she possibly could.

Well that's cheery. confused

She's 96 years old. We don't need to be looking for "sinister" illnesses. It's none of our business.

volver Mon 09-May-22 22:34:06

MawtheMerrier

I’m wondering about something more sinister- bone cancer in her spine, or some sort of disc/spinal problem ? Acute osteoporosis?
I’m sad some seem to be losing sympathy, I am still convinced that she would struggle on if she possibly could.

Well that's cheery. confused

She's 96 years old. We don't need to be looking for "sinister" illnesses. It's none of our business.

Lucca Mon 09-May-22 22:27:20

No lack of compassion at all. Just lack of understanding what is going on in the queens mind.

MawtheMerrier Mon 09-May-22 22:27:12

I’m wondering about something more sinister- bone cancer in her spine, or some sort of disc/spinal problem ? Acute osteoporosis?
I’m sad some seem to be losing sympathy, I am still convinced that she would struggle on if she possibly could.

eazybee Mon 09-May-22 22:16:29

Sad.
Such a lack of compassion.

Callistemon21 Mon 09-May-22 22:04:34

The mobility problems may not be due to her age, they could be due to Long Covid.

Callistemon21 Mon 09-May-22 21:35:36

Germanshepherdsmum

I’m a royalist but am beginning to lose patience. Does she have agoraphobia? Does she not want to be seen in a wheelchair? This isn’t the first time she has left people waiting until the 11th hour and let them down. I have no doubt that she’s still sharp mentally and capable of dealing with her boxes and zoom calls. But I’m beginning to think she is stubbornly clinging to a promise made when she was 21, and only recently renewed. She seems to be turning into Queen Victoria. I didn’t think I would ever say this but I think it’s time for her to step down.

I think you're right, Germanshepherdsmum

However, I think what is stopping her is that her sense of duty and loyalty is such that she believes she would be letting us down.

I expect an announcement of some kind mid-June.

Honeysuckleberries Mon 09-May-22 21:35:06

Volver, surely not couldn’t cope if common sense prevails.I’m off for a lie down in a dark room till normal service resumes. ?

volver Mon 09-May-22 20:53:55

Just read the whole thread...are we having an outbreak of common sense on GN?? smile

volver Mon 09-May-22 20:51:26

Grandma70s

It only seems to be the physical things she can’t do. She can still do the paperwork. I’m not sure what that is, but I know there’s s lot of it.

With respect...

You know she can still do the paperwork but we never see her doing it.

You don't know what the paperwork is but you know there's a lot of it.

How???

I'm not convinced...

Zoejory Mon 09-May-22 20:38:06

I'm not sure that it's just concern about being seen in a wheelchair.

I'd have thought with the State Opening she could just have been sitting on the chair/throne rather than walking in? Does she usually walk in? No idea. I've never really watched it.

I think maybe she's feeling rubbish and it could be time to step down. Or sit down rather.

Possibly she's waiting until the Jubilee celebrations are done?

Joseanne Mon 09-May-22 20:31:37

Same here, Germanshepherdsmum, I agree.
I have every sympathy for her plight, but she just isn't doing the job properly.
Surely there comes a time in your life, usually well before 96 years, when you have to say to yourself, "Who am I helping carrying on in thus role?" "Who is getting any benefit?" Whether you be a monarch, a leader, a manager or a complete control freak you eventually, when very elderly, lose your stamina and outgrow your usefulness. I don't mean that unkindly, because you still have plenty to offer, but surely you want to see someone else take up the reins and succeed?

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 09-May-22 19:52:12

I’m a royalist but am beginning to lose patience. Does she have agoraphobia? Does she not want to be seen in a wheelchair? This isn’t the first time she has left people waiting until the 11th hour and let them down. I have no doubt that she’s still sharp mentally and capable of dealing with her boxes and zoom calls. But I’m beginning to think she is stubbornly clinging to a promise made when she was 21, and only recently renewed. She seems to be turning into Queen Victoria. I didn’t think I would ever say this but I think it’s time for her to step down.

maddyone Mon 09-May-22 19:39:53

I said I hope the Queen doesn’t live to 106. If that’s what’s been alluded to. I didn’t say that I hoped she’d die soon. There’s a big difference. I shouldn’t think anyone would want to live to be 106. I visit my elderly mother in a care home. The sights I see there could make me weep, and it’s a beautiful, caring home. People are bed bound, including my mother, who can only be got out of bed in a hoist. Others have various disabilities caused by their age. I did not say I hope the Queen will die soon. I said I hope she won’t live to 106 because her living another ten years was mooted. I apologise if I’ve offended anyone, including Annie for this. But I still wouldn’t wish living to 106 on anyone.

Lucca Mon 09-May-22 19:23:30

We don’t know for a fact that the queen won’t be seen in a wheelchair.

If it’s true then I think that’s a poor show and I am Sure any wheelchair users on here would agree.

sodapop Mon 09-May-22 19:20:35

Said on the news that the Queen will not be attending the State Opening of Parliament. Prince Charles will take her place. That must have been a difficult decision for her.

Grandma70s Mon 09-May-22 19:01:58

It only seems to be the physical things she can’t do. She can still do the paperwork. I’m not sure what that is, but I know there’s s lot of it.

vegansrock Mon 09-May-22 18:54:41

It’s all just made up titles. Who cares what he’s called he’ll have to be doing the waving and handshaking anyway.

Lucca Mon 09-May-22 18:53:00

Anniebach

Lucca the post from a republican regarding the Queen’s death was posted today but on a different thread so I cannot
say more on this thread , perhaps you know this

They said they hoped she would die soon ??

Anniebach Mon 09-May-22 18:38:57

As it is now, the Queen will continue to meet heads of state etc
and Charles will carry out public duties,

Perhaps make Charles Prince Regent ?

Whitewavemark2 Mon 09-May-22 18:38:50

Anniebach

Why more money ?

Coronation